Model S range and interior update imminent?

[ucmndd]

Fair enough. I would like side view cameras.... and I'm not alone.

"Some estimates say that by just getting rid of side mirrors, aerodynamics could improve as much as 5% overall."

Tesla Wants To Eliminate Side Mirrors

Assume an average of 15,000 miles per year, ~3.5 miles per kWh and an average US energy price of $0.13/kWh.

A 5% efficiency improvement saves you $27. A year.

In other words, a single repair for a fancy electronic mirror replacement system will negate any cost savings due to efficiency improvements for a good 10-20 years.

I’ll pass.

 

[SnowFlyer]

Boooooring!... ;-)This body styling has for the most part been in production since 2012 and is getting a bit stale. I mean I still like the current S and think it's a good looking car, but I sure hoped for something that looked a bit more exciting like some of the renderings. Hopefully this is an intentionally subdued test car exterior and the real thing will have a bit more pizzaz. Side view mirrors are so 2020.... we want sideview cameras

Despite my post, I'm actually most interested in functionality over form. So if it has some incredible range and or charging speed improvements, even if it just looks like the suspected test mule above. I'll probably be buying end of this year once all the bugs are worked out.

Almost at 200 pages on the "Model S range and interior update imminent?" thread with less than 24 hours to go till the expected reveal.

 

[ucmndd]

I'm still hoping this is a mule, and I think it is. If it's just a barely updated S I'll pass.

We’re 6-12 months past “mules”.

 

[Hayseed_MS]

I am with snowflyer on functionality. I am good with the current looks as long as they do not butcher the interior and add range/charging.

Also doing my part to get this to 200 pages...

 

[rypalmer]

Lighter/better/cheaper refreshed Model S personal wishlist:
- structural pack, 4680 cells
- 250kW Supercharging with a more aggressive charge curve
- heat pump + octovalve
- bidirectional charging
- LR, 650km
- $80k CAD

 

[MP3Mike]

Anyone want to take a bet that we will be at 400 pages before there is a real refresh?

 

[henderrj]

In the interest of reaching 200 pages, and because it's a thought.

I do hope the external pack dimensions are exactly the same, that is to say they can be swapped out with what is currently in our cars. I can just imagine putting a new pack with 4680s into my old model s! Doubt that Tesla will ever do it, but I'm out of warranty in two years so ...

 

[roblab]

Lighter/better/cheaper refreshed Model S personal wishlist:
- structural pack, 4680 cells
- 250kW Supercharging with a more aggressive charge curve
- heat pump + octovalve
- bidirectional charging
- LR, 650km
- $80k CAD

I already get 400 miles per charge. So "650 km" for a LR is nothing new.

 

[SnowFlyer]

Assume an average of 15,000 miles per year, ~3.5 miles per kWh and an average US energy price of $0.13/kWh.

A 5% efficiency improvement saves you $27. A year.

In other words, a single repair for a fancy electronic mirror replacement system will negate any cost savings due to efficiency improvements for a good 10-20 years.

I’ll pass.

I hear ya. Although their cameras seem to be pretty reliable. Now if we can just get them to improve their MCU reliability.

While I wouldn't burn $27 in the street, I'm buying an almost $100k car, so the cost savings is not my primary concern. I'm much more interested in increasing maximum range. 5% extra on 402 = 425 miles. I drive frequently on a route where range is tight in snow, cold or with headwinds. Any extra range I can get is very valuable to me. An extra 23 miles is significant.

 

[FlatSix911]

Boooooring!... ;-)This body styling has for the most part been in production since 2012 and is getting a bit stale. I mean I still like the current S and think it's a good looking car, but I sure hoped for something that looked a bit more exciting like some of the renderings. Hopefully this is an intentionally subdued test car exterior and the real thing will have a bit more pizzaz. Side view mirrors are so 2020.... we want sideview cameras

Hardly boring... evolution of the breed through incremental improvements.
Porsche only updated the iconic 911 design 6 times in the first 50 years.

 

[Uncle Paul]

In addition to slight fuel savings, getting rid of the mirrors also reduces a ton of wind noise.

To me the quiet is more important that the economic benefits.

 

[rypalmer]

I already get 400 miles per charge. So "650 km" for a LR is nothing new.

I want a big price cut and a lighter vehicle. Just trying to be realistic.

 

[popgodazipa]

Hardly boring... evolution of the breed through incremental improvements.
Porsche only updated the iconic 911 design 6 times in the first 50 years.

Facts! If Tesla holds true to updating exterior minimally over the years for all models it’s pretty clear which car will age the best. I’ll take the S hands down. I’ve owned a lot of cars but not one as “practical” and fun to drive as this one.

 

[Zorg]

If the Palladium S is wider than the current version, it's going to be a pain to park anywhere outside of Costco. It'd be nice if they could add the heat pump, the horizontal screen and eke out another 50 miles of range (or more). The flagship shouldn't have less range than their upcoming pickup truck. Of course, adding storage compartments in the doors is a must. If they keep the price at $70K, they may have a winner on their hands.

 

[Keith909man]

What we speculating on the price? Same as current, price cut or seeing pricing increases? My guess would be it would be the current pricing. For 3 reasons,
1. You are currently able to place a order today with current prices for the revised S.
2. To stay competitive and not back track dropping below $70k to beat Lucid Motors pricing.
3. Yes, You’re probably getting more range and whatever else sweet to add to the car, however, cost savings found in manufacturing/simplifying will level any possible increase cost for new tech to price match current pricing, that’s just my prediction

 

[MarcG]

I want a big price cut and a lighter vehicle. Just trying to be realistic.

Model 3?

 

[SnowFlyer]

What we speculating on the price? Same as current, price cut or seeing pricing increases? My guess would be it would be the current pricing. For 3 reasons,
1. You are currently able to place a order today with current prices for the revised S.
2. To stay competitive and not back track dropping below $70k to beat Lucid Motors pricing.
3. Yes, You’re probably getting more range and whatever else sweet to add to the car, however, cost savings found in manufacturing/simplifying will level any possible increase cost for new tech to price match current pricing, that’s just my prediction

I hope we see it stay at current pricing with significantly improvement in capabilities. A recent European price increase might be indicative of a $5-6k increase for U.S. buyers. This could be well worth the added expense depending on improvements.

I'd like to see a 435+ mi range, return of the bright silver exterior paint color (your S can match your Cybertruck) and the return of the sun roof!

Europe: New Tesla Model S/X Prices Suggest Upcoming Update

 

[aerodyne]

Did a Chat on the Tesla order page. "No info on refresh until it is released"

However, if I placed an order now, and it turned out the refresh had a center screen or something else I could not live with, only out $100 USD.

Might be good idea to get ahead of the crowd.

Are we at 200 pages yet?

 

[aerodyne]

Did a Chat on the Tesla order page. "No info on refresh until it is released"

However, if I placed an order now, and it turned out the refresh had a center screen or something else I could not live with, only out $100 USD.

Might be good idea to get ahead of the crowd.

Are we at 200 pages yet?

I guess not...

 

[MarcG]

I guess not...

Next post will tip us into the 200th page. Who’s gonna be the lucky one?