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Model S Refresh Spotted in Ohio

Art_Vandelay

Attractive Membrane
Jun 12, 2016
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Elon’s left eyebrow
Have they said if the refresh S and X will have the heat pump?

They have!

It was posted in their 2020 Q4 Quarterly Investor Update Deck

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pabla

Member
Oct 17, 2016
176
101
Vancouver
Awesome, what is the real world difference with the heat pump in winter months?
I don't have any direct experience with the heat pump but look up Byorn on YouTube, he's done multiple tests with the Model 3 with heat pump vs no heat pump. It aids winter with winter efficiency
 

Kuzco

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Feb 2, 2021
55
44
USA
I'm just glad to FINALLY have more info on gear selection. Still processing my thoughts on that setup, but I think I can live with it.
 
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Kuzco

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Feb 2, 2021
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Copying this from Reddit for anyone who doesn't want to go dig it up:

"Smart Shift" can be turned off. Controls are on both the screen and the steering wheel. Nothing on the pad below the phone charger. The right most button acting as a kind of a gear shifter. Clicking once will bring up a prompt on the screen. You will then scroll to which gear you want and click in. The right scroll wheel button is mainly used for Autopilot. So when it's not in use, it can be used for gear shifting.
 

Kuzco

Member
Feb 2, 2021
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44
USA
So in my wife's MY, I usually shut off AP/TACC by moving the right stalk up. Not sure how that would work as this user described it.

Any ideas? Alternatively, how does everyone else shut off AP/TACC with current setup?
 

DukeofURL

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Apr 1, 2016
395
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North NJ
So in my wife's MY, I usually shut off AP/TACC by moving the right stalk up. Not sure how that would work as this user described it.

Any ideas? Alternatively, how does everyone else shut off AP/TACC with current setup?
In my S, I push the dedicated Autopilot stalk forward.... there's always the brake pedal though, haha
 
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arghx7

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Aug 6, 2019
465
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Michigan
just tap the brake, not actually slowing the car down
So in my wife's MY, I usually shut off AP/TACC by moving the right stalk up. Not sure how that would work as this user described it.

Any ideas? Alternatively, how does everyone else shut off AP/TACC with current setup?
 

MorrisonHiker

S 100D 2021.4.12
Mar 8, 2015
9,364
8,491
Colorado
Copying this from Reddit for anyone who doesn't want to go dig it up:
"Smart Shift" can be turned off. Controls are on both the screen and the steering wheel. Nothing on the pad below the phone charger. The right most button acting as a kind of a gear shifter. Clicking once will bring up a prompt on the screen. You will then scroll to which gear you want and click in. The right scroll wheel button is mainly used for Autopilot. So when it's not in use, it can be used for gear shifting.
For those who need a picture of the right side of the yoke:
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Based on that rendering, the right-most button would be the microphone, so maybe things have changed? Looks like they are still the same, based on the steering wheel picture posted above.
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Kuzco

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Feb 2, 2021
55
44
USA
just tap the brake, not actually slowing the car down
But doesn't regen kick in right away if you go that route? That's why I used the stalk - right foot on the pedal to get the speed adjustment where I want it, then flip up the stalk.
 

Kuzco

Member
Feb 2, 2021
55
44
USA
Well you can see a non-illuminated option right above the scroll wheel...so maybe he meant the button above the right scroll wheel?

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Thanks - I thought that was just a smudge. ENHANCE!!!1!!!!

Why not illuminate that also? My first guess would be to only illuminate it when AP/TACC is active, but that doesn't make sense if you're using that for gear selection also.
 
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Kuzco

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Feb 2, 2021
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USA
Also - this is what I was wanting out of the call/demo event that Elon promised on the Q4 earnings call back in January.

Instead we're all piecing it together from spy images & speculation.
 
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sillydriver

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Oct 19, 2014
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Middleburg, va
Just to note in the article they said they were unsure if its a LR or Plaid model, and I think its a Plaid bc of the aluminum pedal set. A little odd they call the acceleration mode Insane and not plaid, maybe its still very early pre-production
It's an LR. The low 3 seconds to 60 for the LR is the same time as for the P85D's original insane mode. They even mention "insane" acceleration when they described the LR on the Tesla website.
 

elptxjc

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Dec 15, 2019
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El Paso, TX
The steering wheel looks super cheap. I'm sure it's not going to be the final version; at least I hope so. Even my lowly 2021 M3 LR has stitches on the steering wheel (although it's not leather anymore), but looks decent. And of course a chrome Tesla logo, which looks way nicer and upscale than just the darn letters. We'll see, I guess. The yoke steering wheel was a deal-breaker for me, and I'm sure after the government saying somebody was crazy enough to try to fit one, they'll prohibit it now. It'd be super dangerous without like 1/4-turn lock. And even then, with that ultra quick steering, if you just sneeze at highway speeds, then BAM! I just can't fathom how that idea got passed the lawyers. Well, government to the rescue. Ha ha.
 
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KalJoMoS

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Aug 11, 2019
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EETN, EST
I still can’t understand the reason behind that yoke, why is this needed? From my personal point this original Model S steering wheel (until this redesign) is still most well designed and best made wheel I have ever used...
 

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