Model S refresh!

[Garry TheBiz]

Finally decent seats in the rear instead of the horrible bench seat

 

[alstoralset]

New No stalks? How do you indicate?

Approach - Neuralink

 

[NorfolkMustard]

Estimated delivery 2022!!

That is surprising. Even for the long-range.

They’re not making any for the rest of this calendar year? more room for Model Y/3 production?

 

[Artiste]

Nice to see it’s still got a binnacle display but there’s no mention of a HUD or matrix headlights. I really don’t like the steering wheel. It’s not for me.

 

[Durzel]

Yoke steering wheels work on racing cars because of the turning circle, you don’t want to take your hands off the wheel during high speed turns.

Not sure how this is going to work for practical driving, unless it has some kind of variable steering ratio. I honestly don’t know how it can work.

Also I imagine some people drive with their hands at 10-to-2, or resting on the top, etc.

Hmm.

 

[pow216]

I think it looks fantastic, clean & minimal - love it.

I get the concerns over the steering wheel. I’ll judge it after I’ve tried it.

 

[gangzoom]

Model X is updated too, just not mentioned in the earnings report.

Similar look as you’d expect:

https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/modelx/design

EDIT: Damn beaten!

£99k for 6 seater config without inckuding FSD, Tesla have totally lost it on pricing.

 

[Durzel]

Sign of the times it seems. Cars just seem to get more and more expensive. I’m not sure manufacturers expect people to be buying them anymore, it’s all about the PCP/lease.

The purchase price just becomes something theoretical then.

 

[ChrisA70]

Interior I quite like except for the hideous steering wheel and no stalks. As for the exterior, it’s one of the laziest refreshes I’ve ever seen. Overall, somewhat disappointing.

 

[gangzoom]

Sign of the times it seems. Cars just seem to get more and more expensive. I’m not sure manufacturers expect people to be buying them anymore, it’s all about the PCP/lease.

The purchase price just becomes something theoretical then.

£10k down, and £1300/month on PCP, bargain.

 

[hcdavis3]

Estimated delivery 2022!!

Tesla website configurator says March of this year.

 

[Foucault]

Agree the interior looks better but that steering wheel looks like something out of a concept car rather than a real road car. From the looks of it the indicators are buttons on the left side of the wheel. Having briefly driven a Ferrari 458, which also has indicators attached to the wheel, the fact that they keep on moving is really confusing (and you look a right idiot when you indicate in the wrong direction). It’s one of those solutions to a problem that doesn’t exist. I guess Tesla will argue that you don’t really need it as it will be self driving but very much doubt that will be the case when the car comes out.

 

[Foucault]

Tesla website configurator says March of this year.

That’s US delivery. UK delivery just says 2022. That’s a long gap with not flagship cars and the likes of the Mercedes EQS launching this year.

 

[hcdavis3]

That’s US delivery. UK delivery just says 2022. That’s a long gap with not flagship cars and the likes of the Mercedes EQS launching this year.

Ah thanks.

 

[UrbanSplash]

Very pricey indeed. But can we please just have the Y in the UK to order.

 

[drtimhill]

I think the pricing is interesting. Tesla still clearly see the Model S as the prestige car with a halo effect for model 3/Y (not saying that is a bad thing). However, that leaves a pretty big price gap between high end of model 3/Y and the base model S. My feeling is we will see some kind of "luxury" version of the model 3/Y sometime in the next 24 months to fill that gap (quieter, better suspension etc).

 

[Durzel]

Agree the interior looks better but that steering wheel looks like something out of a concept car rather than a real road car. From the looks of it the indicators are buttons on the left side of the wheel. Having briefly driven a Ferrari 458, which also has indicators attached to the wheel, the fact that they keep on moving is really confusing (and you look a right idiot when you indicate in the wrong direction). It’s one of those solutions to a problem that doesn’t exist. I guess Tesla will argue that you don’t really need it as it will be self driving but very much doubt that will be the case when the car comes out.

Honestly you get used to it very quickly. It becomes very intuitive to use your thumbs to indicate.

 

[Durzel]

I think the pricing is interesting. Tesla still clearly see the Model S as the prestige car with a halo effect for model 3/Y (not saying that is a bad thing). However, that leaves a pretty big price gap between high end of model 3/Y and the base model S. My feeling is we will see some kind of "luxury" version of the model 3/Y sometime in the next 24 months to fill that gap (quieter, better suspension etc).

A Plaid version potentially, 100KwH battery? Tri-motor?

 

[nxsynjs]

I wonder if they have kept the notoriously unreliable model S pop out handles as by the looks of it they have kept the also apparently unreliable falcon wings doors

 

[Durzel]

Falcon doors are a pretty big USP, if not the USP, of the Model X, and are an immensely practical thing for families.

Are Falcon door problems a thing? Not heard of it in general channels.