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Your steering rack failed? At how many miles? I would think that could be replaced by an independent mechanic. Have you looked into someone besides Tesla, doing the repair?
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Model S Technical / Mechanical Issues
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renevoor
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Yes, they claim water enters from windshield into cable loom and EPAS now corroded, 100k miles. I looked at alternatives, tricky thing is ECU firmware and calibration.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
You could call most out of warranty failures design defects, but it doesn't change the fact that they are out of warranty.
Lots of out of warranty failures on ICEs are design defects. And they don't cover them.
JRP3
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Village Idiot
What's EPAS stand for? Did Tesla ever fix this design flaw? I've never heard of this before.
EPAS=Electric Power Assist Steering. (Or something along those lines.)
If it is indeed a design flaw I haven't seen many people report having the problem. (So it probably isn't a wide-spread issue.) It could be that something went wrong with the assembly on a few cars that caused the cables to be routed wrong. (Like when a bunch of Model Xs has the AC lines swapped.)
Normally only if it is a major safety issue. GM never did a recall on any of their engines that had intake manifold gasket design issues. If you were lucky it failed in warranty and you got redesigned gaskets. If you were unlucky it failed right after you were out of warranty or your dealer used old stock of the bad design of gaskets.
Power steering going out could certainly be a safety issue, and they did a recall for the bolt failures, so if this is wide-spread I would think that they will do a recall eventually.
Frankman60
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This is an update on the actual problem with my 2016 S. After 3 years and 25K miles, the rear drive motor failed. It was replaced under warranty but the cost would have been $5600 if the vehicle was out of warranty. The other thing is that it had to be towed to the service center on a tow dolly. I wanted a flat bed tow but it was not possible because the failed drive motor locked the wheels from turning, even when in “tow mode”. That was a harrowing experience, especially trying to get the tow truck close enough to my car in my garage on a slope. The attachment of the dolly to the front wheels was also hard to do in my small garage.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I'm surprised tow truck drivers don't carry wheel dollies. Jack up the rear wheels and slide a dolly under each one, roll the car easily where you need to.
I have never heard of a flatbed operator hesitating to drag locked wheels up his ramp. They drag wrecks up the ramp every day.
Gtech
Active Member
This is really bad, is this unavoidable?
What if we fill the connector with proper grease?
renevoor
Member
I think there is a whole dynamic behind recalls we don't know or cases we will only learn of when warranty expires.
I heard for below issue only a couple suspect cases were reported, but usually they were resolved under warranty
SB-18-32-002 - Loss of Power Steering Assist Due to Corrosion - 2012-2016 Tesla Model S
Now with most warranty expired (2014/1015 etc) cases like the one linked and mine and others turn up because now customers make trouble to the hefty repairs needed by arguably design flaws.
NHTSA may have reports on real accidents and causes and they may lead to these recalls, but not sure if that was the case here or that a customer just took on Tesla because of the issue and didn't give up.
There were actually quite a few people that had that problem here, and a bunch of them were out of warranty and Tesla made them pay for it until they finally issued the recall.
renevoor
Member
They suggested complete new wiring loom (better insulation) and steering rack. Not sure what you can do yourself.
Check for corrosion is one (loom+connector) first step. On fixmyev you can find manuals on how to get to the EPAS.
renevoor
Member
Just corrosion on the bolts, or actual loose bolts and EPAS that cracked the steering rack? What is a quite a few and a bunch in numbers
And I wonder when Tesla does issue a recall, I guess they don't do it voluntarily, maybe NHTSA forces them?
Thanks for you response, so I've actually got it fixed now. Service Center Hasselt was really helpful and solved the issue for me.
This was on the invoice:
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Concern: Customer: while opening and closing the door, while entering and while driving there
is a peeping noise.
Please perform a test drive
Pay Type: Basic Vehicle Limited Warranty
Corrections: General Diagnosis
Issue caused by loose part in liftgate interior
Interior dismounted, part reattached , working as designed by Tesla
"
So it was coming from the trunk lid basically. Really happy it's fixed now. Hopefully it won't return.
Just corrosion on the bolts, or actual loose bolts and EPAS that cracked the steering rack? What is a quite a few and a bunch in numbers
Bolts that actually broke because of corrosion and the EPAS was no longer working properly. Sorry I don't have numbers but you can search the forum and find the threads if you are really interested.
It was a voluntary recall. (NHTSA didn't force them.) And they offered reimbursement to people that paid for the repair before the recall was issued.
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