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St Charles
Tesla, not TSLA!
This test in no way reflects real world possibilities, nor was it meant to. The Taycan test at Nardo was for endurance purposes. It proves the Porsche powertrain and battery can handle constant high output and charging.
I think this really points out the different design philosophy between Tesla and Porsche. Tesla is about efficiency, everyday performance, and converting people from ICE to EV. Porsche is about luxury and high performance driving experience and finding a new powertrain paradigm to go fast. I think it's good that Tesla is going after track records and gain experiences, but I hope Tesla doesn't lose sight of its core mission and end up putting out super expensive cars that most can't afford. I would rather them prioritize service experience improvement and introduction of the pickup trucks.
From Page 27 Porsche Taycan Brochure
IV. Drive power
Extremely sporty driving or charging at a fast-charging pedestal can
result in an increase in battery temperature and, therefore, in temporarily reduced drive power. Due to
the physical environment, the maximum power required to achieve the specified acceleration values
can be repeatedly produced, but usually not consecutively.
Looks like Porsche isn't immune to power throttle due to heat. It'll be interesting to see how many times they can constantly lap the track.
IV. Drive power
Extremely sporty driving or charging at a fast-charging pedestal can
result in an increase in battery temperature and, therefore, in temporarily reduced drive power. Due to
the physical environment, the maximum power required to achieve the specified acceleration values
can be repeatedly produced, but usually not consecutively.
Looks like Porsche isn't immune to power throttle due to heat. It'll be interesting to see how many times they can constantly lap the track.
But they are claiming it's a 24 hr distance record for an ev, and people are comparing it to Bjorn Nyland's attempt on public streets. The implication being that the Porsche is more capable, when in fact it was just the venue.
seattlite2004
Active Member
SmartElectric
Active Member
Already discussed, Model 3 could match Taycan in similar conditions, full stop.
Could Tesla Model 3 Performance Match Taycan’s 24-Hr Endurance Record?
Looks like there is a bit of understeer and the suspension is not controlling the body motion properly. It's not surprising though if they have never tuned the car on the Ring. Question is whether they can tune it without major mod to the suspension geometry since it probably needs change to camber and toe angles besides damping and spring rate.
St Charles
Tesla, not TSLA!
Are they? It seems to me that they are underscoring the conditions and results of their endurance testing. I'm not seeing where they are claiming a distance record...
Taycan prototype convinces at endurance run in Nardò
What was the record before "the Taycan mastered this ambitious endurance run without any problems?" What was so ambitious about it? Does it still stand?
larmor
Active Member
Why were there yellow lights? Is that a European standard or yellow for braking (generally) or is it indicative or regen braking?
I doubt Porsche will do that. If a magazine wants to do it, then I think Porsche may supply a car. But from what I have seen with their other models, Porsche only sets records at Ring. The 919 record runs were a bit different because they were going after the fastest of any kind at the track they went to.
Valore
Member
The Porsche hit 221 (137 mph) kph in that same section shown in the Tesla video
St Charles
Tesla, not TSLA!
I think you are getting caught up in marketing speak. Maybe take a moment and breathe?
Look at the Instagram post showing this Model S. It does not seem to me that it is a triple motor, but a standard Raven. Is this a privately owned car or one of Elons? What do you think?
Misha on Instagram: “Trust @elonrmuskk , he is an engineer. #diy #tesla #nurburgring #nordschleife #beatthetaycan?”
Misha on Instagram: “Trust @elonrmuskk , he is an engineer. #diy #tesla #nurburgring #nordschleife #beatthetaycan?”
I know it's dark in there, but it's all marketing. Porsche was highlighting the only performance parameter they thought they had over Tesla, endurance. Do you think they would have ballyhooed the numbers if they came in behind the P85D they were bench marking ? The problem for them is the model 3.
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