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Model X 2°Generation

Uncle Paul

Well-Known Member
Nov 1, 2013
Canyon Lake,CA
Believe that Tesla sees their future more in the Model 3, Y, Truck, Pickup, etc.

S & X will soldier on, with constant improvements and updates, but don't believe that doing a new version of them would really bring much more volume or profit. With the release of the upcoming Plaid versions with 3 motors and even higher levels of performance, that will probably bring in just as many new sales as a revamped body style. It will entail a wide body modification, as well as changes to the suspenstion etc.

Since existing models are already equipped with the items needed for upcoming FSD, that also can just be updated to provide for the newer technology.

They are still the fastest, quickest, longest range powerful long distance cruisers in the world.

Hard for me to see a reason to change them with whole new models.

Reality is that sales are not low. They are among the most successful and highest production EVs in the free world. Only seem small because of the run away success of the Model 3.
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Active Member
Apr 5, 2012
Like other luxury models in that price range, S/X will always be lower volume than lower priced vehicles (3/Y/pickup).

S/X sales were inflated before 3 was released because they were the only long range EVs on the market, and a sizable percentage of S/X customers were purchasing (by far) the most expensive vehicle they ever owned and would have strongly considered the lower price 3/Y instead of S/X.

However, there is still a market for S/X - and compared to other vehicles in the same price range - S/X is still doing very well.

Tesla does have incentive to release a refreshed S/X - primarily for manufacturing efficiency. Tesla needs to move S/X onto newer battery/charging technologies, which will likely happen next year. And with Tesla pushing the limit of manufacturing at Fremont, they could benefit from combining S/X into a single manufacturing line, freeing up space for 3/Y/pickup.

Looking into my crystal ball:
  • New battery pack/V3 charging sometime in mid-to-late 2020
  • Refreshed S/X for manufacturing improvements late 2020-2021, possibly prior to production of the new pickup
Other manufacturers typically refresh models to increase/support sales. In Tesla's case, it's more likely S/X changes will primarily be justified by internal economics (since S/X still appears to be very competitive against the vehicles other manufacturers are bringing out in the next several years).
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What will it take for you to call an X a second generation? The Raven has increased range, speed, and improved suspension.

Moving to a stretched Model 3/Y platform or Pickup truck platform. For the sake of increased production efficiencies, the Model S/X are high profit margin products but even Tesla stated they take more labor to produce. Part sharing with the Pickup truck will increase margins more.

It is expensive to test and certify a new platform along with new tooling to make it worth Tesla's ROI. So as been stated, expect a new interior, new fascia, battery powertrain, and the new less wire architecture in the X. Relatively speaking, doing these things are cheaper than coming out with a new second gen product.

Who knows, maybe Tesla is counting on many X drivers moving over to the new Pickup. We will see.

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