I think this is a real issue. especially with now how expensive eap is. if you do full autonomy, you are paying 8000 dollars. you can almost go up to 20,000-30,000 dollars worth of options to add to a 60D. I think it's a little much. I did the calculated risk that I wouldn't drive that much 200+ miles to really needed that added range.
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Model X 60D Range
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I think this is a real issue. especially with now how expensive eap is. if you do full autonomy, you are paying 8000 dollars. you can almost go up to 20,000-30,000 dollars worth of options to add to a 60D. I think it's a little much. I did the calculated risk that I wouldn't drive that much 200+ miles to really needed that added range.
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I'm happy as we don't drive much commuting, and live in a highly-populated metro area, in the eastern corridor of superchargers, but I did have my first weekend trip in the countryside where temps were in the single digits, and definitely wished I had a 75D. I imagine in normal weather it will be better.
That 10K will be a hard pill to swallow, but I'll probably end of doing the upgrade sooner-or-later if I can convince the wife. And if doing it at all, better to do it sooner before we have too many road trips under our belt. After they price cut of the Model S upgrade, I was hoping the same for the X, but now I'm not sure if Tesla has any plans to lower the price. Do you guys think there is any chance of it going down?
That 10K will be a hard pill to swallow, but I'll probably end of doing the upgrade sooner-or-later if I can convince the wife. And if doing it at all, better to do it sooner before we have too many road trips under our belt. After they price cut of the Model S upgrade, I was hoping the same for the X, but now I'm not sure if Tesla has any plans to lower the price. Do you guys think there is any chance of it going down?
My previous car was Nissan Leaf with 84 mile range, so it was already a big upgrade for me to have 200 miles in 60D and definitely enough for daily commute.
For road trips, it was a bit of a hassle. From Las Vegas to Grand Canyon West Rim, needed to go out of the way to Kingman to do supercharging both to and back. Added an hour more each way for detour and charging.
Also needed to stop at supercharger from Los Angeles to Vegas, but it was on the route and good restroom break so not too bad. It's really just the places that you have to take large detour that make supercharger really cumbersome, but not really worth the $9000 more (so far)
For road trips, it was a bit of a hassle. From Las Vegas to Grand Canyon West Rim, needed to go out of the way to Kingman to do supercharging both to and back. Added an hour more each way for detour and charging.
Also needed to stop at supercharger from Los Angeles to Vegas, but it was on the route and good restroom break so not too bad. It's really just the places that you have to take large detour that make supercharger really cumbersome, but not really worth the $9000 more (so far)
martinicus
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Well, you could say that about any range upgrade. Personally if I'm going to own the car for a length of time, psychologically I'm going to want to maximize it and unlock its full potential. For us I imagine it could make certain family trips less stressful, especially to off-the-beaten-path rural areas and in the winter. It's not a huge difference but when it matters..
Does anyone have their maximum charged range at 196 miles or lower? Mine used to be 201 miles, then 198, and now 196 at just 5000 miles on my MX60D. It does not fluctuate up and down but only keeps going down. I thought that it supposed to stay at 201 since any battery degradation would be in the hidden 15 Kwh.
hill
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Colder temps? Even is SD, the weather dips below 70 degrees on occasion. BTW, they've announced the demise of t he 60kWh packs for the MS now too. You folks are a teeny group w/in a teeny group.
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Locally, my commute includes a 100 mph section of the highway. I don't go that fast but the flow of traffic is around 85-90 and many people drive by like I am standing still.
I remember driving from Vegas to LA in 1997 going 110-115 mph with a cop car next to me going with the flow of traffic for many miles. Then a Lexus SC400 blew by at MUCH higher speed and the cop chased him. The cop was in a marked Camaro.
Driving south on I-95 the flow of traffic often hovers around 100 mph once you get past "jail me" Virginia...
You going from Philly to Harrisburg? You can imagine that many government workers using gas cards supplied to them may be ignoring basic economic and emissions values while cutting their drive time short. I bet highway speeds around capital cities tends to be higher due to this type of activity. NJ governor Corzine was involved in an accident when his driver (trooper) was up in the 90+ mph range in one area of S. NJ. It also shows how speeding and eventual accidents can change a person and his family's life. Is entitlement really worth it? Problems plague state trooper who drove Corzine Ok, ok, and I know you guys will say that all they needed was highway speed Autopilot to avoid the incident...
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Hi everyone, I will give my two cents now! Hope it helps out!
We live in Maine and our daily commute covers about 50-80 max. Some day we go well over 150 but the SC help out with that extra Load.
Very Important to Highlight:
*We lose about 25% range during winter.
*Anytime temperature drop 20 or below the X makes rattle noises that the services center still can figure out!
*We charge everyday at 100%
*Best winter driving (drop the MIC)
*No plans on battery upgrade from 60 to 75
Trip we have taken.
Maine to Ohio ( no problem with range at all, 16 to 20 minutes short charge allow me to bounce from SC to SC
Maine to Burlington VT (Taking the back road we arrive at SC with 0 miles)
Maine to Orlando FL (April 20 2017, can't wait for this trip! really going to test the X 60 D range)
Conclusion:
Over all it's the best car we have own with a family of 3. I will hold out to upgrade the battery for as long as possible because there is a chance that we ca go from 60 to 90 or even a 100 someday. If I'm spending 10k I rather spend it on a bigger and better battery upgrade then my current one.
Range wise, we have never had issue with the 200 range knowing that we get close to 180 in perfect condition. Having a 3 year old, getting her out of the car, and back in the car has never been easier.
We live in Maine and our daily commute covers about 50-80 max. Some day we go well over 150 but the SC help out with that extra Load.
Very Important to Highlight:
*We lose about 25% range during winter.
*Anytime temperature drop 20 or below the X makes rattle noises that the services center still can figure out!
*We charge everyday at 100%
*Best winter driving (drop the MIC)
*No plans on battery upgrade from 60 to 75
Trip we have taken.
Maine to Ohio ( no problem with range at all, 16 to 20 minutes short charge allow me to bounce from SC to SC
Maine to Burlington VT (Taking the back road we arrive at SC with 0 miles)
Maine to Orlando FL (April 20 2017, can't wait for this trip! really going to test the X 60 D range)
Conclusion:
Over all it's the best car we have own with a family of 3. I will hold out to upgrade the battery for as long as possible because there is a chance that we ca go from 60 to 90 or even a 100 someday. If I'm spending 10k I rather spend it on a bigger and better battery upgrade then my current one.
Range wise, we have never had issue with the 200 range knowing that we get close to 180 in perfect condition. Having a 3 year old, getting her out of the car, and back in the car has never been easier.
You should stop at Burbank if not busy but if it is busy just go to Buena Park. It will eliminate range anxiety. You can also take the 405 down and stop at Culver City SC or the redondo beach SC.
haha that post was from months ago - we did the trip in my x60 no problemo. From east bay to anaheim we only stopped at gustine and buttonwillow. the hotel had destination charging so i didn't have to stop at buena park. on the way back i did the same thing but had to pit stop at harris ranch due to a strong headwind. my next trip will be to eureka but i'm convinced that i can get anywhere in the state with the existing SC layouts.
martinicus
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Have been over the grapevine in my X60D 3 times. One time got -270wh/mi on the way down! It is nerve wracking seeing your projected range go way doooooooown.
hill
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couple thoughts ~
seems the last time I checked . . . . haven't they dropped the price to around $7k ?
also, the hackers who've delved into the system have shown conclusively that the 60kWh actually provides 62kWh of usable energy, while the upgrade / std 75kWh pack is only 72kWh. The price therefore covers a 10kWh upgrade.
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