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Model X 90kWh battery pack degradation

Discussion in 'Model X: Battery & Charging' started by KOL2000, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. PandaX

    PandaX New Member

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  2. Gwgan

    Gwgan Almost a wagon

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    Your projected 100% then is 126, so looks similar.

    Jan 2016 build P90D 98,000 miles From my Shortcuts scripts while car is sitting plugged in in garage:
    When I last drove Wh/mi was over 400 for a while then settled to high 300’s with temps close to freezing which may be why Estimated is so low. Fair weather real range is about 190mi.
     
  3. GoCanes

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    exactly the same as my 2016 P90D with 51k miles.
     
  4. bionichomer

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    Sounds pretty much just like mine... p90d 2016, 50k miles, 22" wheels. 100% 234, 90% 209-211.
     
  5. Gwgan

    Gwgan Almost a wagon

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    Typo, should be 226
     
  6. islandbayy

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    about 100 miles away from 100,000 miles on my 2016 MS90D. 100% Charge on HOT battery Rated Range is 250 Miles. Still on firmware 8.1.
     
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  7. E Dizzle

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    *update* 2016 P90D 58,300 miles. 100% shows 229 miles
     
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  8. SilverUnicorn

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    My May 2016 90D at 100% with 78k miles gets 226. I wish there was a way to upgrade to 100D pack since I’d spend the $20k+. I have an early enough 90D which included the motorized spoiler which I love. I don’t want a new X. I want my X with a new battery.
     
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  9. TespaceX

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    2016 X P90D with 40K miles is showing 226 @100%.
     
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    Since you guys are happily reporting the numbers at 100%, have you noticed that not every % is equal in the 90 pack? Somehow it seemed to me that between 50-10% each 1% is actually smaller in terms of energy than between 50-100%.

    In other words, when you charge the car full, it looks like you have ~80kWh of available energy, but in the end 72-74kWh is much closer to the truth.
     
  11. mob7988

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    2016 P90DL purchased used directly from Tesla (with about 32,000mi)
    now at a little over 50,000mi

    100% 210mi
    90% 185mi

    charge at home with Tesla charger
    I took it to SC and they did admit my battery was “on the low end of the spectrum” BUT battery degeneration was NOT covered under the warranty.
    I just went to my account online pull up my purchase agreement, build date info, and warranty. It’s no longer available?!?
    Feels like I’m getting the runaround. Any feedback or help from members who have experienced this issue will be much appreciated.

    Thanks



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    Midnight Silver Metallic
    20" Silver Wheels
    Ludicrous Mode
    Autopilot with convenience features
    90 kWh PerformanceAll-Wheel Drive
    Standard Interior Package
    Autopilot with convenience features
    Pay Per Use Supercharging
    Premium Connectivity, Free Unlimited
     
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  12. MP3Mike

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    They are correct there is no degradation coverage on the S&X until the 2020 ones. (I think that is when they added it.)
     
  13. rush6410

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    6 to 10% Degredation is normal. You are below that, so you are below the norm.
     
  14. TespaceX

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    Unfortunately...This is the (Tesla) way.
     
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  15. forkee

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    wow, i can't believe you beat me. i thought i had it the worst up until now. I also got my P90DL direct from Tesla with 49k. It's at 60k now with 100% at 216 and 90% at 198. I have been almost exclusively supercharging because it's free. The service center also failed to do anything about it. They said they only fix if it does not charge to 100%, not if range is not as stated. It's supposed to have 8 year battery warranty so my best option is to just revisit them towards the end of that and hope they will replace it when they see my max range is 150 :rolleyes:
     
  16. omarsultan

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    That's not completely accurate. Starting in 2020 they specified an amount of degradation and bought the coverage in line with the Model 3 and Model Y. Before that, the warranty wording did not specify a percentage, just some vague wording about abnormal rate loss. Tesla eventually replaced the pack on my '13 P85 after it had degraded below 70% of its original range.

    As another data point, my wife's X P90D has a rated range of ~222 @100% (71K miles).
     
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