SpudLime
Active Member
I believe I read on another post that someone tried to call in the request and they said you cant get it off menu anymore.
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- Thread starter outie
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I believe I read on another post that someone tried to call in the request and they said you cant get it off menu anymore.
Yup. I was about four months too early in ordering, so my delivery missed AP2 by a couple months. Thus, I'm seriously considering it (and there are a bunch of other nice to have things, but without the lure of AP3 I likely wouldn't be contemplating the upgrade anytime soon.)
At the time of ordering, the hidden features (complete wiring for a second camera, space in central camera box, patents,) left me convinced Tesla did have an upgrade path planned for AP1 cars - which might have actually happened if the Mobileye agreement hadn't fallen apart.
I normally don’t like leasing, but with a Tesla I have to 100% agree with you. At the end of 3 years you are left with a lot of obsolete tech.
This isn’t so critical with normal car manufacturers but as the Tesla is really defined by its software / hardware and technical capabilities you can quickly lose the ability to get features that directly affects the way the car drives.
GenSao
Member
Recently I have been tracking the changes with a spreadsheet. It is amazing how much changes were made to the Tesla lineup since the end of 2018. Hopefully things will settle down a bit (at least till 3Q =).
I would guess yes, you will get new hardware.
When it goes to build, go to your account, go to manage order and right click the link "view spec".
Select copy link text. Paste that in notepad or similar. You should see a load of 4 digit option codes.
The option codes you are looking for I believe are DU03 and SU03.
The current hardware is SU01 and DU01.
I don’t think the battery chemistry is that important. I think this is more like an inverter design changes. Also, if they can move up to higher volatge on the pack they can increase significantly the charge rate. They have more options before changing to the new cells. IMHO they have limitations not on the cell and chemistry level but on the pack design itself which limit them push it safely to such a high amperage. I am not sure that the current pack designs provides them enough cooling capabilities on the current nominal 400V level and some of the conductors can be limitation also. I2R is a b$&@#. Get you every time.
I have to say one thing: “first world problem”. On the other hand the issue is setting expectations IN YOUR MIND. I have a 2013MS and currently I am missing all those nice things you might have. Do I care? Does it change my life? In our M3 I appreciate the cool autpilot features but I can live without it. We are so much spoiled that most of us forget how awful is driving an ICE car and the whole experience comes with it. Sometimes, just take a step back. If you happy what you have bought, enjoy. Don’t look back. You haven’t bought it to sell it tomorrow. You bought it to use it for many years. Enjoy then and don’t screw up your mind wit these bad thoughts. Peace.
I think you must have misunderstood me. I am happy with what I have and have no intention of changing. If you read my prior post on this thread that will be clear to you. I was merely stating that owning a Tesla is a different proposition. They are defined by different qualities to traditional cars - the autonomous and tech features - and to some that might be a problem.
And I wouldn’t call driving an ICE car awful, no need to be overly dramatic - they still do certain things very well that current EV’s can’t.
Ben W
Chess Grandmaster (Supervised)
This upgrade is tempting, but not quite enough for me to pull the trigger just yet. I have a Signature P85 2012 Model S, and would consider upgrading to Model X P100DL. New AP hardware, 265mi -> 305mi range, 4.2s -> 2.7s 0-60, what's not to like?
On the other hand, waiting another cycle (6-12 months) would get me the improved 2170 battery pack, possibly/hopefully 120kWh pack (~365 mile range), faster charging, and refreshed interior (I'm guessing it's unlikely we'll see a significantly refreshed Model X exterior for a couple more years at least). Perhaps also more cosmetic options (colors, wheels, trims, materials, etc.), and it'll give them time to iron out more kinks with FSD.
Besides, I still do LOVE my 2012 P85. (65k miles on it, runs like new.) My original plan was to put 100k miles on it before upgrading, but I'm sure I'll cave in sooner
On the other hand, waiting another cycle (6-12 months) would get me the improved 2170 battery pack, possibly/hopefully 120kWh pack (~365 mile range), faster charging, and refreshed interior (I'm guessing it's unlikely we'll see a significantly refreshed Model X exterior for a couple more years at least). Perhaps also more cosmetic options (colors, wheels, trims, materials, etc.), and it'll give them time to iron out more kinks with FSD.
Besides, I still do LOVE my 2012 P85. (65k miles on it, runs like new.) My original plan was to put 100k miles on it before upgrading, but I'm sure I'll cave in sooner
They made one change where the door comes down, it's like a big round button. The part where it is facing the front of the car, they didn't change it.
See below. I have marked the relevant part in bold to help.
More Efficient Design All Model S and X vehicles now benefit from Tesla’s latest generation of drive unit technology, which combines an optimized permanent magnet synchronous reluctance motor, silicon carbide power electronics, and improved lubrication, cooling, bearings, and gear designs to achieve greater than 93% efficiency. Pairing a permanent magnet motor in the front with an induction motor in the rear enables unparalleled range and performance at all times. The net effect is a more than 10% improvement in range, with efficiency improvements in both directions as energy flows out of the battery during acceleration and back into the battery through regenerative braking. In addition to adding range, power and torque increases significantly across all Model S and Model X variants, improving 0-60 mph times for our Long Range and Standard Range models.
OBX John
Autonomous Driving Enthusiast
Anyone have a guess about how long the free Ludicrous offer for existing owners will be in effect? I want to upgrade, but I don't have to do it now. Kind of want to see how the new power train performs once it's out in the real world.
Super_Popular
Well-Known Member
Also might want to check with your insurance agent as well. Nationwide would not insure a P with L.
My X order just went in to production today afternoon. My option codes are DU02 and SU03.
@Seattle Tom I complained about latches on my 2016 MX and Tesla quickly replaced them with the newer ones. This is a known retrofit they do. Just tell them your current latches sometimes hesitate.
