TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC
  1. TMC is currently READ ONLY.
    Click here for more info.

Model X: Average Wh/mile Tracker

Discussion in 'Model X: Battery & Charging' started by MattXowner, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. Nrazar

    Nrazar Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2018
    Messages:
    150
    Location:
    Denver
    Going 90mph with that ascent? No wonder!
     
    • Funny x 1
  2. Hoozy

    Hoozy New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    1st post.. =P

    [ Raven MX Performance ].. 350-375 almost daily commuting with approximately 80% highway/tolls.. I've put 12.3k miles on it since June 21st with 5 road trips exceeding 850-2k miles.. So, on road trips I average 305-320 with changes such as Range Mode + Chill.

    I also live in flat territory ... Oklahoma.. meh.
     
  3. mxnym

    mxnym Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2018
    Messages:
    836
    Location:
    Bloomington, IN
    So I did as above, and then apparently forgot to post:
    Here are the readings from December 3rd, 2018 to March 29th, 2019 (winter tires on factory 20's):

    4,407.7 mi 1,699.6 kWh 386 Wh/mi

    Here are the readings from March 29th, 2019 to December 1st, 2019 (factory tires on factory 20's):

    10,516.6 mi 3,331.5 kWh 317 Wh/mi

    IIRC, I actually saw the Wh/mi average as low as 311 (I know it was 313 or lower) in October before the cold snap.

    ETA, because why not, as I haven't reset my lifetime meter yet, here are my lifetime readings as of December 1st, 2019:

    33,982.9 mi 11,768.2 kWh 346 Wh/mi

    That's a bit over 2 years of ownership. I might have to reset the lifetime number, because even though I can't understand how it could be relevant, my MCU is starting to get a bit laggy, and people have said that their service centers have told them that resetting both trip meters has resolved that problem, and IIRC, the same people were able to confirm those results in their vehicles.
     
  4. syedimranhasan

    syedimranhasan New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2019
    Messages:
    2
    Location:
    Houston
    I have a 2016 Model X P90D with 17000 miles on it and I bought it used when it had 15000 miles. It has 22 inch performance wheels & its been averaging 460 Wh/mile. The car also fully charges only to 230 miles instead of the 250 rated.

    Is there something wrong?
     
  5. mxnym

    mxnym Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2018
    Messages:
    836
    Location:
    Bloomington, IN
    Assuming your numbers are correct, this works out to roughly 8% loss. While I have no inside knowledge, my guess is that it wouldn't be fixed under warranty for an 8% loss. Some degradation over time and use is expected, and from what I've read, most of it happens early in the battery's life, so this could be completely normal. The Model S & X 8 year unlimited mile warranties don't spell out a maximum acceptable degradation. The Model 3's less extensive warranty does. If I were in your situation, I would consider discussing with a service center only after my degradation exceeded that spelled out in the 3 warranty, but with the understanding that wouldn't guarantee I'd like the answer I got from them.
     
  6. Fredst

    Fredst New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2020
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Saint Augustine FL
    I live in Saint Augustine, FL where it’s flat. Driving around the neighborhood w. 4lane roads and 5 mi above SL=30) my average is 275. Driving to work w. SL 55 average is 310. On interstate it’s 380.
     
    • Like x 1
  7. Ampster

    Ampster Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,633
    Location:
    Sonoma, California
    That is what my. 2016 MX has after 95k miles.
     
  8. Bob Denny

    Bob Denny Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2020
    Messages:
    110
    Location:
    Mesa, AZ
    345 mix of highway and city traffic. 365 open highway 80 MPH ish.
     
  9. Obsoletion

    Obsoletion Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2014
    Messages:
    190
    Location:
    Alta Loma, CA (Southern California)
    331 - on 2020 Raven X performance 7 seat - after 4000 miles about half of that freeway trips averaging 80 mph
     
  10. Cperry

    Cperry Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Location:
    Oakland
    Still after 12,000 miles still getting 453wh/mi on average. MX P100DL VIN 097xxx 2018. Not sure why I get such low range even when I'm driving slow.
    Going up the Grape Vine to LA I was getting that type of mileage and I was also going pretty fast. It's really nice how well it takes hills, almost like it's level.
     
    • Like x 1
  11. ps004ynos

    ps004ynos Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2016
    Messages:
    184
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    2019 P-Raven on 22s. E battery (in case this makes a difference). 8k miles. 382 wh/mi. About 60/40 highway/street.
     
  12. shinytop

    shinytop Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    Pensacola
    Mostly local driving. I route by roads with 40-45 MPH speed limits. I have owned two hybrids before this so have learned how to stretch available power. 6 months of ownership with a little over 4k miles, lifetime wh/mi of 283. Raven Long Range.
     
    • Like x 1
  13. Royalpopat

    Royalpopat Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2020
    Messages:
    35
    Location:
    New Zealand
    I am averaging around 185Wh/km. Have just had the 2019 MX 100D for 11 months now. 15K kms yet.
     
  14. EV-lutioin

    EV-lutioin Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    1,928
    Location:
    California
    Has anyone measured how much range loss occurs on a Model X from having a couple of bikes on a trailer hitch bike rack?
     
  15. alangrig

    alangrig Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2020
    Messages:
    22
    Location:
    Florida
    MX 2016 90d, 6 seater, 36k miles on the clock. We had a trip over weekend with 3 persons, fully front trunk and Thule bike trailer with 3 bikes. 80% of the trip speed was around 60mph. The results: 122 miles = 38 kWh. Considering the fact usable battery capacity is 81.8 kWh, we arrive at 262 miles it can be covered under this conditions.
    Should the calculation above be wrong above let me know.
     
  16. EV-lutioin

    EV-lutioin Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    1,928
    Location:
    California
    Wow, that is better than I get with the car empty and no bikes. I also have a 2016 90D and my rated range is 231 miles, but in reality, we don't get much more than 200 and an average 380 Wh/mi. Maybe you had a tailwind?
     
  17. Royalpopat

    Royalpopat Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2020
    Messages:
    35
    Location:
    New Zealand
    I find a lot more things are involved than just the driving style and conditions. I do not charge my car every night so there is some charge lost while parked as well (If you are keeping it connected then there is some charge being used when connected but not charging). So, to include all these I use the good old school method of car logs using the Fuelly app and treating 1KWh as 1 litre of fuel. My car's lifetime average considering all losses is presently at 4.18kms per KWh. Taking the present commercial charging rates its half the cost of fuel when compared with my old car that did 11kms per litre of 91Octane. Thus home charging should surely be much cheaper.
     
  18. alangrig

    alangrig Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2020
    Messages:
    22
    Location:
    Florida
    Well, a wind was not strong enough that day and a road direction had been changing constantly.
    I will carry out more tests for a longer trips and report back.
     
    • Like x 1
  19. E Dizzle

    E Dizzle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2019
    Messages:
    66
    Location:
    Arizona
    Just picked up a 2016 P90d with 45,000 miles and 20's over the weekend. Had to drive up a 5000' ft elevation to get it home, but we are seeing 404 Wh/mi over the first 300 miles. Around town the last few days I've been able to get low 300's if I drive more than 10 miles for the trip. Otherwise it can be close to 500 if it's less than 5 miles. Love the X! 20200524_150825.jpg
     
    • Love x 1
  20. Skydiver42

    Skydiver42 Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2020
    Messages:
    11
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Drove my new to me 2017 75D with 18k miles on 20s from New Jersey to Louisiana, 1500 miles, and averaged 344wh/mi. That was doing 99% highway driving at 75-85mph on autopilot.
     
    • Like x 1

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC