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Yes, I also take every bit of marketing to the bank as if it were gospel, and drive as if marketing hype were true, even though my every experience in the car says AP cannot drive for me! NOT!There are two messages from Tesla.
1. Keep your hands on the wheel. You are fully responsible not us.
2. In 2017 the car will drive ny to la without the driver touching anything.
The new cars are FSD capable.
In 2019 you could sleep in your car while it drives you.
The car will uber for you...
Ok, so I was wrong about AP not being active, I suck.
Now we need to modify the theory of what happened. We are now assuming that Walter thought he was in the adjacent HOV Lane? The one that would have taken him to the 101? I’m still confused as to how the car goes straight at that point. With a lead vehicle cutting him off an obscuring Lane lines for a moment? What’s the working theory now?
After looking at a video of another driver on that road, it is easy to see this scenario, as the crucial line between the lane and barrier is horribly faded.
It becomes easy to see, since the lines are in needing of painting, a lane following assistance system could "jump lines" over to the brighter line, into the barrier "lane" if the driver was not paying attention.
When I'm driving and I see not very well maintained lines like this, my attention level spikes up.
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Yes, I've never questioned the ability for AP to drive itself into a barrier.... the thing that shocks me is that in this particular instance, it goes against the behavior I've seen regarding lane recognition... I hope someone can try different scenarios to see if AP drifts in that area.We won’t know until they finish their investigation, until then we can only guess.
See, AP has nothing personal against any of us, it is and it was (as we know now), totally possible for AP to drive the car against the concrete barrier, it has tried that before, both my MS and MX.
ABC7news went to the Mt. View Supercharger to talk to a few people there about whether the accident had shaken their confidence in their Tesla: Tesla drivers still feeling safe despite deadly crash
BTW on the page that linked to their site, ABC had this photo showing the hood and tire (not sure that's off the Tesla). First time seeing the hood.
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Is that the left front tire. Can't tell if it says Continental or not. Here's a another photo for comparison from the crash scene of the right tire.
Yes, I've never questioned the ability for AP to drive itself into a barrier.... the thing that shocks me is that in this particular instance, it goes against the behavior I've seen regarding lane recognition... I hope someone can try different scenarios to see if AP drifts in that area.
The recent NNs are great but I've had 2 crazy instances with them. With 2018.10.4, the car tried to take me into oncoming traffic going through an intersection AP had never failed in for almost a year. With 2018.12, my car hopped across a lane (partially) before I could disengage. It did both very suddenly and I usually don't keep a death grip on the wheel so I could only disengage by holding very hard while it tried to take me into dangerous areas. Luckily both were not accidents and I was there to take control but the new NNs are not fool proof and are, in my opinion, prone to these kinds of random errors because they are so intent at following what it thinks are lane lines and it acts with total confidence now.
Tesla needs to quickly implement HD maps because without it their system is going to be inadequate.
Tempting. Very tempting. This accident feels different. There are multiple issues at hand:Are we really going to have a 72 page thread on every car accident involving a Tesla?
Yes, I've never questioned the ability for AP to drive itself into a barrier.... the thing that shocks me is that in this particular instance, it goes against the behavior I've seen regarding lane recognition... I hope someone can try different scenarios to see if AP drifts in that area.
Are we really going to have a 72 page thread on every car accident involving a Tesla?
I marked out on the map ~150 meters to the start of the barrier as shown on satellite:
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Here it is to the collapsed location:
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Yes, I also take every bit of marketing to the bank as if it were gospel, and drive as if marketing hype were true, even though my every experience in the car says AP cannot drive for me! NOT!
I just don’t understand this whining “they said it would...” that somehow absolves people from using their 5 senses and making rational judgments.
...This accident feels different...
Are we really going to have a 72 page thread on every car accident involving a Tesla?