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Just got delivered P100D a week ago so with my limited experience, X consumes approx 10% more energy than S on highway, 20% more on normal city traffic, 30% more in stop and go traffic.
Per wk057 S P90D is approx 310Wh/m and X P100D is 343Wh/m. That's 10%. However X is much heavier and have bigger cabin space hence higher A/C consumption in slower speed and stop/go.
Per wk057 S P90D is approx 310Wh/m and X P100D is 343Wh/m. That's 10%. However X is much heavier and have bigger cabin space hence higher A/C consumption in slower speed and stop/go.
Chrisizzle
Member
Having moved from a Model S, I am disappointed by the Rated Range.
In my Model S, I could achieve the target 200wh/km (300wh/mi) when neccesary even in the dead of winter. I'll admit it took sufficient driver concentration and lowest possible heat, but it was always within reach.
I was surprised to see the Model X's rated range based on an identical 200wh/km despite being bigger and heavier. It really should be proportionally higher even if that means a lower, more realistic total mileage.
I've only had the Model X for two months but I doubt I will ever hit the target number. I drove from Montreal to Toronto last night with autopilot at 100km/h (62mph) and heat COMPLETELY off. The lowest I ever managed was 260wh/km (390wh/mi).
I assume my winter tires have something to do with that but still.
In my Model S, I could achieve the target 200wh/km (300wh/mi) when neccesary even in the dead of winter. I'll admit it took sufficient driver concentration and lowest possible heat, but it was always within reach.
I was surprised to see the Model X's rated range based on an identical 200wh/km despite being bigger and heavier. It really should be proportionally higher even if that means a lower, more realistic total mileage.
I've only had the Model X for two months but I doubt I will ever hit the target number. I drove from Montreal to Toronto last night with autopilot at 100km/h (62mph) and heat COMPLETELY off. The lowest I ever managed was 260wh/km (390wh/mi).
I assume my winter tires have something to do with that but still.
The rated consumption on the X is higher than on the S. From @wk057's recent thread:
I run at about 298Wh/mi on my RWD Model S (vs the rated 295), and in the ballpark of 328Wh/mi on my X90D (vs the rated 320). So I find that I'm pretty close to rated.
I did notice that my consumption on the X improved dramatically over time. My last 1000 non-towing miles average right around 320Wh/mi, even though it's been raining and cool here. My last 200 miles are under 300Wh/mi, but that could just be the specific driving conditions.
K-MTG
Sunshade Captain of TMC
I average at 450 when I use the AC and 380 otherwise. I still have to get the loud compressor fixed.
xkwizit
Member
My X goes into annual service and 12v battery replacement on Tue. The loud compressor is one of the concerns on the list but i doubt they will find anything in the winter or fix it on this trip
AndreyATC
Member
I'm at 350 with my P90DL
A few snow storms, a few 70-75mph trips, all winter time, heat is on, but not abused
Stock 20s wearing Nokian Hakkas R2
I got it on Dec 29th
A few snow storms, a few 70-75mph trips, all winter time, heat is on, but not abused
Stock 20s wearing Nokian Hakkas R2
I got it on Dec 29th
If you need me to bring mine in, I can try to meet you in Rocklin. There is no excuse for the loud compressor. Once it's fixed, it sounds appropriate and the car is more efficient. I wouldn't take "no" for an answer. If they need another X to compare to, I am happy to bring my reasonable sounding vehicle to purr in their ears.
xkwizit
Member
arijaycomet
Member
GREAT thread! Really love this data. This coming weekend I'm finally jumping ship to a MX 75D (pickup in Tampa, FL on Saturday, and instantly spend 2.5 days driving 1200+ miles back home to Ohio). I'll be curious to compare my range (wh/mi efficiency dynamics) to my Model S vehicles that preceded it.
For me the benchmark is the 2016 face-lifted 70D that had 292 wh/mi average over the 11,500 miles I owned it (7 months). In the winter time it was obviously worse, and 75% of those miles were summer/fall. Still, as others noted in this thread, it was darn close to the rated 300.
My 75D Model S has the optional 22" wheels, though it sounds like some people claim the 10-15% loss was overzealous, and it isn't quite that bad. It will be interesting to see, since the first half of my drive home should be 60+ F temps-- but then as I hit Kentucky and into Ohio, it will be 35 or below temps for sure, with some snow. If people on this thread want, I can post logs between each SC as I'll be driving over 2.5 days direct from Tampa, FL to Cleveland, OH.
For me the benchmark is the 2016 face-lifted 70D that had 292 wh/mi average over the 11,500 miles I owned it (7 months). In the winter time it was obviously worse, and 75% of those miles were summer/fall. Still, as others noted in this thread, it was darn close to the rated 300.
My 75D Model S has the optional 22" wheels, though it sounds like some people claim the 10-15% loss was overzealous, and it isn't quite that bad. It will be interesting to see, since the first half of my drive home should be 60+ F temps-- but then as I hit Kentucky and into Ohio, it will be 35 or below temps for sure, with some snow. If people on this thread want, I can post logs between each SC as I'll be driving over 2.5 days direct from Tampa, FL to Cleveland, OH.
I can't believe how close you get to the rated mileage, @ohmman. I'm truly impressed, you have much more discipline than me. I won't tell you my numbers (mainly because I don't want to look). My New Years resolution is to mellow out on the accelerator pedal.
I also drive primarily on roads that have 45 mph speed limits. My highway driving is relatively limited on a normal daily basis. Not to mention California climate vs. Canadian Great Lakes climate.
goneskiian
Active Member
What size wheels?
Another contributing factor is the new tires. It should improve as they break in.
What size wheels do you all have? Thanks!
We're also tracking these figures in this thread...
Model X: Average Wh/mile Tracker
I've made some assumptions from these posts to put in my spreadsheet but so far the 22' wheels show a significantly more than 15% range hit. Perhaps some of these higher Wh/m numbers are actually 20's but the numbers are showing 355 for 20's and 425 for 22's.
I have 20 inch wheels and Nokian winter tires for the last 3.5 months.
I'm at 13,880 miles so far
I'm at 13,880 miles so far
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