I don't see a change. I still see them rather derailing the talk with cheeky comments than actually participating in the mule content. Of course, I know you were joking and I am too. But taking it serious for a moment, vis-à-vis the Model X: I would very much welcome the long experience of more senior members and their effort into some analysis of what we're seeing of the Model X. I know for whatever reason many don't want to, and that's their call of course. Why not at least consider putting yourself back out there, trying to actually make sense of what we're seeing with the rest of us. I get it that some feel it hurts Tesla, or is pointless because analyzing the progress isn't necessarily indicative of the end-result, but again just my opinion. The more eyes and brains we have on this, the better our talk would be. Long past experience and perhaps personal contacts (even if they currently wouldn't be talking) would surely offer some unique views we're not currently getting in the conversation. I think it would benefit the TMC community and definitely would be appreciated.