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Model X Range

Discussion in 'Model X: Driving Dynamics' started by EVger, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. PGeer

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    Mind you, that's 4000 miles of freeway driving. I'm doing a bit worse (380-sh) around home where there are hills and lots of start stops.
     
  2. MarchX

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    Picked up my 90D, one of the first non-P's to be delivered yesterday at Fremont.
    Drove home to the Central Coast (South of San Luis Obispo), so no net elevation change.
    221 miles average 319 Wh / mile. Mostly freeway speeds of upper 60s to lower 70s
     
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  3. MarchX

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    And by the way, the spoiler on my 90 D is active!
     
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  4. openwyder

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    Rear Pics Please!:)
     
  5. ohmman

    ohmman Maximum Plaid Member

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    This is excellent preliminary information! Thanks, keep us updated.
     
  6. McManX

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    Really? Would love to see pics!
     
  7. araxara

    araxara S-P85#3,218 X-90D#3,299

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    Is it really active (i.e. adjust with speed), or does it just retract when car is locked? Either way, it’s great. I almost upgraded to the P90D model to get the retracting (when parked) spoiler, but wanted the little extra range the 90D provides.
     
  8. MarchX

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    #148 MarchX, Mar 19, 2016
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    90D spoiler4.jpg 90D side fwd open.jpg 90D front fwd open.jpg 90D spoiler up.jpg i'm guessing it's active, but hard to tell when driving if the changes are subtle. All I know for sure is it retracts and goes up.
     
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  9. LeonardD

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    From what I have heard, with the P90D it is very obvious when the position changes, so the fact that it retracts is not an indication that it is "active" (actively changing at different speeds). Either way, I am glad that it retracts. I think it is in Tesla's best interest to do whatever it takes to maximize range.

    Your car is beautiful. Congratulations and thanks for posting the pictures.
     
  10. K-MTG

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    Congrats, did they give you a sunshade when you picked up the car? Any updates on the all weather mats
     
  11. pvogel

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    It's *quite* evident when things change. Slow speed the 'max visibility' position has the spoiler looking like a Very thin line in the rear view mirror, as you speed up and it goes to range position the spoiler blocks about half of the view through the glass underneath it.


    Max visibility position shown in the attached photo
     

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  12. MarchX

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    No sunshade - I asked and was told I would eventually get one - kind of vague answer by the dos
    Did not inquire about all weather mats
     
  13. MarchX

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    Thanks for that input and photo - I'll see if there is anything more than fully up or retracted tomorrow
     
  14. johnc11050

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    Thanks for the update on the 'active' or 'non active' spoiler. Valuable info on this forum as there is no other way we would find out about these 'changes'. Somehow DS sometimes do not get the info. Thanks again and enjoy!!!
     
  15. gmtom1

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    Are there any settings in the controls screen for the spoiler? I believe the P model with the "active" spoiler has a control toggle on the settings screen to control if/when the spoiler goes up or down.

    Ok, so now that we know that, does this mean the "non-active" spoiler on the 70D will be the same? i.e. retracts flush when parked?

    From a practical standpoint, I still maintain the "non-active" spoiler should still retract fully, otherwise you could be in for some damage if you went through an automatic car wash.
     
  16. Blurry_Eyed

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    The spoiler will be about level until you get to about 42 miles per hour. The easiest way to see if you have an active spoiler is to note the spoiler position when first driving. Then take a look at it while you are on the freeway. If it's in a different position than when you first started driving the car, then I would assume it's active. If it's in the same position as when you first started driving the car, then it's not active.

    The two positions I see in our 'Active' spoiler are basically level, starting out driving to around 42 miles per hour. Then it tilts back about 30 or 40 degrees so you can see the underside of the spoiler (Basically it's smoothing out the airflow to create less turbulence behind the car).
     
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    The question, assuming that the 90D spoilers are motorized like @MarchX has shown, is why wouldn't they include the "active" portion? Obviously it's a tiny software thing - is that worth holding back from 90D vs P90D? I would have thought it would be a fixed spoiler, which would indeed save some cost.. but this is a little strange. I realize there is a history of software restrictions available "for pay", but this one just seems odd considering it can help with range.
     
  18. AnOutsider

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    Right, and going up to a P90D to get a feature that helps range is counter-intuitive seeing how you apparently lose range due to the P motor.
     
  19. quartzav

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    I suspect that this is part of the effort to upsell P90D. Since both already meet Elon's definition of "enough range". Through this to artificially narrow P90D and 90D to have only 7 miles EPA estimated differences. (Asides extremely optimistic protection on P90D range to start with?)
     
  20. MarchX

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    Just back from a spoiler test ride and the definitive answer is in:

    on the 90D the spoiler is definitely NOT inactive.......once I hit mid 40's it tipped down dramatically.
     
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