Well, I guess you're right- the Mona Lisa does have a bit of a crooked/cracked and uneven smile. Every time I see these open on a car, they rarely look even
Model X redesign: What's the chance of it having no FWDs?
- Thread starter SeminoleFSU
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Not just bigger, but a smoother ride with air suspension.
another moving part Tesla realized was more trouble (and problematic) than the functionality it provided. Switched to a fixed spoiler.. Notice a pattern?
and doesn't have a single tiny 15" screen trying to display entirely too much info that requires 15/15 eyesight to be able to read the tiny text.
Here's another thought to consider:
Pretty much everyone who bought a MX would have still bought that vehicle without the FWDs. Chances are they were buying the car because of other attributes, and the FWDs were either a +/-, but it wouldn't have stopped them from purchasing the car without them.
However, there are many like me that will not buy the MX specifically because of the FWDs. Therefore, I firmly believe the decision to put FWDs on the vehicle has actually negatively impacted their ability to sell as many cars as they could have without them.
Pretty much everyone who bought a MX would have still bought that vehicle without the FWDs. Chances are they were buying the car because of other attributes, and the FWDs were either a +/-, but it wouldn't have stopped them from purchasing the car without them.
However, there are many like me that will not buy the MX specifically because of the FWDs. Therefore, I firmly believe the decision to put FWDs on the vehicle has actually negatively impacted their ability to sell as many cars as they could have without them.
henderrj
Member
There is at least one who would disagree with you. The falcon wing doors are in fact a major part of the reason that I do hope to buy an X in the future.
No, the option to always open fully doesn't completely override the sensors, so in a tight garage, they still won't open all the way. I'm 6'1" and I drive my vehicle, in the front seat. On the rare occasion where I need access to the middle row, I have no problem holding the button to open one all the way, which I can do in my garage (the other side really can't be accessed in the garage front or rear). When I'm loading the whole family, I usually just back it out of the garage using summon and then it's super easy access all around. Dealing with child safety seats would be a nightmare without the FWDs, and TBH, if the X didn't have FWD, I'd probably prefer a Pacifica plug in hybrid for real head and leg room on weekends but an EV experience on my daily commute.
Keep fighting the good fight friend. I would love an X without the FWD. I agree with all your points about the doors being slow, inconsistent, and way too flashy. My ideal vehicle is a large electric SUV (bigger than the Y) with normal doors. Once it's time to replace my X, it will be a tough decision - downsize to the Y, or go for a non-Tesla SUV? Maybe Rivian will have released something by then...
X Fan
Supporting Member
At this point, the X's FWD are not the vehicle's Achilles heel...the parts are now solid and fail infrequently.
The remaining issues for me that would stop a new purchase (damn 371 miles are unbelievable) are shudder and the fact that the new seat's headrests are too far forward.
The remaining issues for me that would stop a new purchase (damn 371 miles are unbelievable) are shudder and the fact that the new seat's headrests are too far forward.
I guess it depends on how you define "fail". I've never had mine completely break, but off the top of my head they:
1. Consistently do not fully open, even without any obstacles present. Sometimes they barely open 50% of the way.
2. Fail to latch on a handful of occasions. Luckily I've always been able to open and re-close the door to fix the issue, but I'm waiting for this to one day leave me stranded.
3. Dump water on to the passenger seat after it's rained.
This is all on vin 131XXX, so not exactly an early build. I love everything else about this car but the doors always get me.
#1 often happens when baked in the sun. Holding open on the touchscreen is a workaround.
Service can fix #3, the water dump (they did for me).
Service can fix #3, the water dump (they did for me).
I recently placed an order for a LR+ and I'm also not a fan of the FWDs. I really wish it didn't have them. Some folks really like the "Hey look at me" sorta deal but not me or my family.
We still ordered one because we like the car overall. We need a 3-row EV SUV for my family of five and the Y is just too small for us.
Regardless of FWDs or not, I still love the car. Can't wait to take ownership of mine.
We still ordered one because we like the car overall. We need a 3-row EV SUV for my family of five and the Y is just too small for us.
Regardless of FWDs or not, I still love the car. Can't wait to take ownership of mine.
I actually like the FWDs. They make it easy to get in and out of the back.
Pretty well for the time 1956 and it's the price ($10,000, more than a nice suburban home). They run $1.2 Million today.
HyperionMark
Member
I don't either, but most adults I have carried find getting in and out with FWDs easier, except in height-restricted spaces.
Completely agree that they make entering and exiting easier. I just hate the attention it grabs.
I wouldn’t buy my Model X without FWD.
FWD is the signature of the model.
skitown
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They are why I haven’t bought one to date. The inability to put a roof rack on it for skis, bikes or a roof box takes a lot of the utility out of the SUV. But I fully respect it as a people hauler.
