Agree with Mark here... Tesla explains this in terms of how many miles per hour you regain with each choice. Many manufacturers run at one speed of charge in their assumptions. Tesla lets you know that the Amps matter. This is not entirely true. eMotorwerks have a 60A J1772 Juicebox and there are several folks providing 80A J1772 (Clipper Creek and I believe the manufacturer that was at this year's TMC Connect also build one (based on Open EVSE). Most definitely for this point. The wiring challenge that we ended up with in our garage had me install several NEMA 14-50 and 6-50 in the garage for primary and backup locations. (And for guests).
It appears that the early Sigs that have been contacted to configure are *not* under an NDA. If this is true would any of you care to comment on your experience so far? Has TM addressed any questions you might have adequately? Have you actually seen more than the renditions we have all seen posted so far? Have you been told about any features that the X may have that are not included in the configuration page we have seen? Thanks
I emailed Tesla a few days ago asking about the MX charger so I can make plans for the installation in my house. Lo and behold I got a phone call from Tesla with a partial answer. They asked me not to post the answer, and I will honor that request, but he did say that all will be clarified in 2-3 weeks with an official announcement.
Very true, but I kept to a simple answer for the reasonably priced 30 amp EVSE with a 40 amp breaker since the idea of installing any J1772 for a Model S or X is money spent for a device that needs the adapter. It should be considered if other EVs are going to need to charge up, so the higher amperage choices need to be considered if there is only room for one charge station. I find that even with the 100 amp installation, that I charge at much lower levels most of the time. I like setting the rate on the vehicle touch screen to a low setting that will finish the charging when I need to drive the car. The result is topping off at 90% at the desired departure time.
Thanks muchly to O-G for asking, and to ohmman, Mark Z for further info. This electrisical phrasiology is just bouncing off my brain without sticking or penetrating. Maybe I'll try making my own charts or posters to help burn it in, and draw the plugs so help visualize the different connections. I'm used to organic cells, not lithium ones. :redface:
Glad to take the time to explain some of the details. With my second meter install for the Chevy Volt and Tesla Model S, we had GM, SCE, city inspectors, electricians and SCE technicians doing the work to get the 12 cent electric rate in my area for EVs. So Cal Edison has a great guide for the electricians that is good technical information for those who may think that their electrician is overcharging for the EVSE install. When you know what happens behind the scenes and all the decisions (like the distance between a second meter and the gas meter) it helps when asking, why? While this is for So Cal, see what we go through. It could make you happy that the process is much easier in your area. https://www.sce.com/wps/wcm/connect/1edda164-c538-461f-a530-e65e9847ca45/EVElectricianGuide.pdf?MOD=AJPERES And for those who like to see the patient being operated on, here are some photos of just one day in the life of a second meter install that is mounted flush with the house. Later, an additional connector box was installed flush under the main meter on another day: Second Meter Install | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
While we're wildly speculating, if such a new generation charger is retrofittable in Model S, it may be less expensive than dual chargers. Most of the $2000 fee for dual charger is labor for adding the second charger. Swapping out the primary charger involves less labor than adding a second charger.
Is it just me or does the rear passenger windows have too dark of a tint and possibly illegal some states? Maybe this is just a pictorial representation and will not be an actual production feature.
I'm unaware of a state that doesn't have an exception for the rear windows of SUVs and vans. If this was a sedan, yes, they'd likely be too dark. Just go look at a Suburban, the back windows can be dark.
doesn't that presume bone dry-rolled up empty and also happening at night time - so there's no incoming PV Solar? That's a mighty narrow scenario. .
9 states limit SUV rear tint -- 5 of them limit it to 35%, the other 4 are less than that. This may pertain to adding tint, though. Perhaps if it is factory tint, the law may make exceptions.
bumping again so we have at least a chance of getting more details about the X features/configuration versus talk about charging. Thanks
So, on topic question. Has anyone with Signature 27 or higher been offered configuration? How about anyone under 100 who has NOT been allowed to configure yet? Just trying to nail down the number of cars they're considering building for the first batch of Sigs. (AIMc, I'm trying).
Again to stay on the topic if this thread (configuration) and not talking about charging(!).... Are people just using the Model S order/build interface to help determine how they may configure the seat colors, headliner, and dash? Are there spreadsheets or polls (hard to do with all combos) that show popular combinations that people liked with their Model S's? Yes, of course, I realize this is a personal preference just wondering if there is some combination I didn't consider. [update: I just saw Mark Z started a thread related to this: Signature X Seat, Belt and Interior Colors ]
It will be very interesting to see how big the next group is. With cancellations the first group was somewhere around 20-25 cars. Given how much people seem to be expecting a steep ramp, the next one should be 40-50 cars, and should be a week after the first so, err, tomorrow?
There are statistics on the Signature X Seat, Belt and Interior Colors thread. Most important are the screen saves from the Design Studio for Model X. Differences between the seat styles are discussed. After spending a week thinking about every seat color, I finally did enough research to make the decisions. Visiting Tesla Stores and sitting in Model S seats for both tan and black after they had been sitting in the sun helped. The new Buena Park location was converted from a Chevrolet dealership. Lots of used Model S to view interiors and exterior colors. Come on down and take a test drive today!