Trailer mode should default to standard, unless you manually over-ride. If you run low there is a ~2.5 degrees camber iirc. This will definitely cause premature wear. My first set of OEM, running low without trailer and standard with trailer, had the steel belts showing on the inner side after about 16 months of use.
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Model X Travel Trailer Consumption Analysis
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AltoGrayhound
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I did not manually over drive. Tomorrow I taking dircetion of Mont Tremblant with the AltoA but before going to Tesla service in Quebec to change front right suspension table. I will talk with the service people.
Your “consumption” figures lack context. As you know, energy usage varies dramatically based on speed and many other factors. You do not specify a speed or anything else. I can tell you that when towing my F1743 on a level, dry road with no headwind at 55mph that I use significantly less than the figure you show in your table.
AltoGrayhound
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Ecarfan you are right I did not mention the speed and I will add it. I took the standard speed used by almost all Tesla X owner. I travel at 55mph. Even in Canada, I use 89km/hr to be in par with 55mph used in USA. I am not trying to get numbers in the best situation but the average in normal use. Like you when I was in Florida last January and February I got very good consumption even below 500wh/mi with our F1743 . Anne-Marie and me will be in Florida and south for 3 months next winter with the new A2124. I am looking forward to see the average that I will get then and share it.
When I did the comparative test between F1743 and A2124, it was on the same day with the same itinerary. It is 41 miles so 82 back and forth between Lévis Supercharger and SafariCondo factory in St-Frederic. It is not a flat itinerary there is a difference of 900ft between lowest and highest point. I did the same between F1743 and F2114. That is how we established the difference of autonomy between the 3 model. Daniel Nadeau did the same test with a ICE car and he gets the equivalent differences. I used my average on 10,000 miles with the F1743 to establish a target average for the A2124. That is the number that I have put in my Excel sheet. Has I do more mileage with my duo I will be able to confirm. The best would be to travel with a friend that has a Tesla X with a Alto F1743 but we are not quite a lot to do Tesla camping. Thank you for your input.
548Wh/Km. Flat ground, 90km/h, 2020 MX LR+, 20" Wheels, Coachmen Apex 288BHS, 4880 UVW. 96" Wide. 10'1" Tall
That seems to come out to 882 Wh/mile at 55MPH.
Do I win an award? Bigger numbers are better, right?
Seriously, I wouldn't pull this trailer again. (Nor should I, I know, I don't need to be told)
We rented it before getting the X and we were only going a short distance (~95 miles each way), and did not make the full distance without charging along the way (I don't charge to 100%). No significant problems pulling, but energy consumption use was often off the chart.
Kev.
Whoa. Just looked up the other specs: GVWR 7000 lbs, dry tongue 585 lbs. You already said you know, so I won't say it.
Curious, though - did you use the stock Bosal hitch? Without weight distribution?
Whoa. Just looked up the other specs: GVWR 7000 lbs, dry tongue 585 lbs. You already said you know, so I won't say it.
Curious, though - did you use the stock Bosal hitch? Without weight distribution?
Standard hitch, with weight distribution, it was part of the rental. it was also a REALLY long bar, so way past the 8 inches. Probably closer to 20, if I'm honest.
Like I said, I expected to pull it with a truck, but received the X. When we hooked on, the car had less than 500 KMs on it.
Now, since I expect to pull a LOT, and I'm aware of the limitations, I have a question. If I replace the Bosal hitch with something normal, can I mount the Bosal into my S? (Cause, you know, I have a problem with rules and authority. I know about the 0 limit on pulling with the S) I don't intend to pull much with it, but a bike rack, or whatever would be nice.
And yes, I promise to rent (and eventually buy) lighter from now on.
Wow. That is impressive. But not in a good way. Glad you survived that towing experience.
I know that some people have mounted hitches on their Model S. I don’t know anything about the feasibility of mounting that Bosal. If all you want to do is have a bike rack then I don’t see an issue with that. Search the forums for “Model S bike rack” and I suspect you will find some information.
I tow the r-pod 178 with a 2020 Model X (20" tires, the Long Range one). Highway speed (55-67mph) consumption of about 750 Kwh/mi so far (have only taken on one camping trip). Will measure it more accurately later. No WDH. Fairly easy to tow.
Thanks for the report, @joseanes. That's approximately 469Wh/mi, which is very impressive at those speeds. Is your X a Raven (351 mi of range)?
For the rest of us, some vitals for the R-Pod 178:
Hitch Weight: 295 lbs
Dry Weight: 2603 lbs
GVWR: 3768 lbs
Width: 96 in
Height: 118 in
For the rest of us, some vitals for the R-Pod 178:
Hitch Weight: 295 lbs
Dry Weight: 2603 lbs
GVWR: 3768 lbs
Width: 96 in
Height: 118 in
You're probably right. My brain focused in on that "K" and the high number and I interpreted it incorrectly.
750Wh/mi is.. quite high, especially if this is a Raven drivetrain.
He stated he was going “Highway speed (55-67mph)”, and if in fact his speed during that consumption test was consistently at the high end of that range it seems possible that could use 750Wh/mi towing that R-pod.
When towing my smaller and lighter Alto trailer at 60mph I can use over 600Wh/mi on a level dry road. I have never towed at 65mph so can’t provide data for that speed.
AndreyATC
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This trailer is going to be roughly between 4000 and 5000 pounds when loaded. What range is expected towing this thing?
19 long, 8 wide and 7 tall
I expect you will use over 650Wh/mi at 55mph on a level dry road with no headwind. So your range will be less than half of what you are used to getting at 65mph when not towing.
AndreyATC
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I really hope it’s the case. I’m afraid it might be in high 700s, if not 800S. It should be twice as much energy at least if you tow another model X behind you. However, this brick is close to 10 feet tall altogether, may give me a hard time.
It is going to be flat Road for the most part, not sure about wind or rain. Rain will kill it
I’ll share the numbers in about a month or so when I make the trip, if you guys interested.
Hopefully I’ll survive the journey
It is going to be flat Road for the most part, not sure about wind or rain. Rain will kill it
I’ll share the numbers in about a month or so when I make the trip, if you guys interested.
Hopefully I’ll survive the journey
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Sorry for dragging slightly off topic, but are you happy with the R-pod? I'm looking at the model 193 ... Have a bunch of hoops to jump through before we commit to buying anything, but the 193 looks like a great fit for our family - just 3 of us (plus Buster the bulldog!)
gglockner
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Sorry to revive an ancient thread, but wanted to post that I'm getting around 480-520 Wh/mi with a 2022 Model X LR and a 2022 Bowlus Terra Firma, depending on conditions. I can post more if people are interested.
I’m interested.
Can you be more details about the conditions? Speed, temp, elevation changes.Your numbers are basically the same as what I get at 55mph on a level, dry road with no headwind. Towing a Safari Condo Alto F1743, about 2200 lbs loaded. Increasing my speed to 60mph increases my energy consumption to about 600Wh/mi.
Your trailer is definitely more aerodynamic than mine.
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