Your friends have not extensively driven this RWD "budget" variant. No matter how you spin it, this is embarrassing for the Porsche to be so out performed by a family SUV at the same or cheaper price point.
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Model Y crushes RWD Taycan in drag race. How embarrassing.
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Your friends have not extensively driven this RWD "budget" variant. No matter how you spin it, this is embarrassing for the Porsche to be so out performed by a family SUV at the same or cheaper price point.
Porsche are still rolling around laughing at the broken down Model S trying to beat their record around the ring over a year ago and haven't tried again since. I doubt they take Tesla seriously until Tesla enter motorsport
Needsdecaf
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They took Tesla seriously enough to test the Taycan alongside a whole fleet of Model S. So at least it gave them a benchmark to aim at. Tesla never had that luxury when developing the Model S a whole decade earlier.
Uncle Paul
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Porsche has essentially copied the Tesla design of aerodynamic body, skateboard low mounted battery pack, one or two motors, large touch screen displays etc.
Whille it is a good looking car, it is significantly overpriced, relatively slow and will sell to mostly Porsche enthusiasts.
They still have little reliability to charge on longer road trips.
Whille it is a good looking car, it is significantly overpriced, relatively slow and will sell to mostly Porsche enthusiasts.
They still have little reliability to charge on longer road trips.
I don't understand the obsession with drag racing cars that are so obviously chalk and cheese, apples and pears...... whatever!
I would have thought it highly unlikely that anyone looking to buy a sports car would have their head turned by a family SUV, regardless of the latter's ability to out perform the former. The S might be a better comparison, even then I would suggest my reasoning stands. Until Tesla release the Roadster, or Porsche the equivalent of the Macan/Cayenne, any comparison between the two marques is meaningless?
I would have thought it highly unlikely that anyone looking to buy a sports car would have their head turned by a family SUV, regardless of the latter's ability to out perform the former. The S might be a better comparison, even then I would suggest my reasoning stands. Until Tesla release the Roadster, or Porsche the equivalent of the Macan/Cayenne, any comparison between the two marques is meaningless?
The S makes a very good comparison actually. The Taycan is not exactly an all out sports car like the Cayman or 911. It’s basically an electric Panamera, a car often cross shopped against the Model S.
I think the comparison with the Y was simply because that’s a car they happened to own. What it does show is just how much Porsche have crippled the performance of their base Taycan. Straight line acceleration should be a major strength of any performance focused electric car and yet Porsche have dumbed it down here. It’s a bit pathetic really.
I'd not really thought of the Taycan/Panamera as a cross shop option for the S, but yeah, good point well made!
I don't disagree with your thoughts here either, but I still find the comparison/drag race thing irksome!
I'll stick with my M3P and trounce or match all but one of the Taycan range in a straight line - see I got drawn in
Eh? Porsche exist to make a profit, nothing else. Tesla sell, what, twice as many cars as them? How can they not take that seriously?
And Porsche are pulling out for Formula E, the only electric vehicle motorsport they have entered.
tardis56
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The real difference would be on a 1000 mile trip as I bet the Tesla would find more working charge stations!
stopcrazypp
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Unfortunately that's a common strategy in car upselling in most traditional brands.
The last reported figures from Porsche were 1.2B proft for a half year so they do quite well.
But in volume terms you have to see Porsche as part of VW which uses different brands to segment their offering. VW/Porsche know that high volume starts to detract value from Porsche so the underlying technology gets packaged and tuned differently into different brands. The E-tron GT shares much with the taycan as an example. Eventually it might become a vw e-Passat with cheaper suspension and lower quality materials. If Ferrari just wanted a big sales volume they could just stop calling fiats fiats and start calling them Ferrari’s. Nearest Tesla get is sharing bits between the M3 and MY and I suspect the Roadster 2 will be just a MS plaid+ in a fancy dress, they’ll cash in all the £200k+ sales then bring out a Roadster long range for £120k trashing the values of the full fat roadsters
Yeah I see Porsche these days as more of a badge engineering exercise for VAG. Quite sad really. They sell more SUVs than sports cars too.
I do think the Roadster will share the same drivetrain as the Plaid S+, but I doubt they will make a cheaper version of it.
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