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Model Y - Gigafactory Texas Production
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Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
When it first popped up, I looked to the right side and thought I was #12 from Austin, but realized it was 400,012. That's still cool though...I just want my car!Hey you made the 400k level
Hi all.
New here and perhaps this has been asked but since im only interested in a tesla built by texans, does anyone know specifically how to guarantee one from austin? My residence is in California but im down to deploy any tricks known to cheat that even if it means flying somewhere else to get one. For the $5k difference the performance model seems like a no brainer.
New here and perhaps this has been asked but since im only interested in a tesla built by texans, does anyone know specifically how to guarantee one from austin? My residence is in California but im down to deploy any tricks known to cheat that even if it means flying somewhere else to get one. For the $5k difference the performance model seems like a no brainer.
The best cheat code I’ve read so far is to wait until the end of the year to place an order. 100% guaranteed to work if you want a Texas Car
pepperoni
Member
Except @SolarWizard lives in California, so he will still get a car built in Fremont.
Which begs the question…. Why is it so important to y’all to get a car built in Texas? Do they build better cars? I don’t get it. @SolarWizard, explain please.
Mrbrock
Active Member
Range increase will be less than 5%. They are not going to do 15% and put extra cells in cars that aren't needed. The press on 4680 has been misinterpreted. Tesla put out all the weight savings and increased power, etc. but for them that all means they need less batteries per car which makes every car cheaper to build on top of the batteries being cheaper to build. They keep the specs the same and make much more $$$$.
If there wasn't money in a SR model, why make the entry M3? Because more people will buy it. It may not be as profitable, but it still makes money. With Austin ramping, they will have more capacity and can afford to make some lower profit models. They did resubmit SR MY to EPA for 2022 model year.
No, Tesla is not making any 4680 LFP. 100% of 4680 production is going to be NCA until there is no longer a waitlist to buy LR MY. Tesla does not use any cylindrical LFP cells currently so it would take entirely new production lines to make them. Different chemistries require different production processes. Tesla uses prismatic LFP. If they do make SR MY in the future, it will use these based on their statement that all SR vehicles will be LFP. They would also need to resubmit for EPA certification with LFP since the battery will have a different weight compared to 2170 SR and they already submitted 2022 SR MY.
henderrj
Active Member
I’m pretty sure they will have more than 100 cells per car!
1 million batteries will only make around 1,000 cars
Hmm, the old 85s, like mine, don't have a thousand 18650s in them. The 4680s have way more capacity per cell. I think 100 is close to right. 1000 vastly more than possible. (Except in the semi, of course.)
ZenRockGarden
Active Member
...and you're completely factually wrong. Model S "85" packs consist of 7104 individual cells.
Model Y 2170 packs run 4,416 cells
The 4680 structural pack is expected to have 960 total cells.
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That was my thought also. Even if the Austin version has same range, lighter and more rigid is significant. Probably also better charging profile with 4680.
Yep. Not to mention the current nickel supply craziness. LFP may be more cost stable.
beantownrich
Member
Sigh nope they're all just really dirty Induction 20's I counted the spokes one day when I was bored.Just looking close up. They aren’t silver but can’t tell if black or charcoalAssuming perhaps a combo of both 20/21.
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
Wow nice resolution lol. I wonder if all of the dark ones are such.
Sucks as I have an MYP blue order so hoping they aren’t all LR.
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
No no NO!
How many times does this have to be debunked? Elon himself said they will NOT do LFP in the 4680 form factor.
Second factual error in your post is that Telsa's 4680 cells ARE a different chemistry (dry battery electrode with graphite, NOT wet battery electrode like the current 2170s).
My point was that it is unlikely THIS YEAR. As I said. They can sell SR, one day. But they have a serious serious backlog of current orders to deal with.
And understand this huge order issue for MY is transitory. It will be a long time before the goat goes through the python, but it will. and it has had some weird effects on Tesla EDD prediction system, ordering, etc that the systems were never really designed to handle.
Yes, not at all likely 4680 will be done in different chemistry for SR version. Makes no sense. Never even been suggested.No no NO!
How many times does this have to be debunked? Elon himself said they will NOT do LFP in the 4680 form factor.
Second factual error in your post is that Telsa's 4680 cells ARE a different chemistry (dry battery electrode with graphite, NOT wet battery electrode like the current 2170s).
If there IS an SR, though, Tesla will have to solve for the two-casting, open-bottom chassis that will by that point be the only version going through Austin and Fremont. So the options are fewer 4680s in structural packs or a different pack built in same shape as structural pack with a ton of internal reinforcement and the smaller batteries. Fewer 4680s, with the commensurate drop in weight is the more elegant solution.
Or... no SRs.
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