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Model Y - Gigafactory Texas Production
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ZenRockGarden
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But my SA said she didn't get the SR offer & don't know where the rumor started from.
There are only so many SR+ vehicles they can build in the near term so the few offers (before online access) could be limited to those involved in the SR+ design/production, seniority, etc.
Yes, but SA is an employee unless it's only selected employees? Which is also dumb, because if they opened up to employees they can get a count & estimate of the demand tbh, internal readings.
Targeting employees in Austin and those associated with the line isn't dumb, since they are the most involved and in a position to bring/incorporate feedback into change (they come to work and their job is to improve what they just rode to work in... vs send feedback when their primary job/responsibilites give them a chance to try and remember that one thing that sucked when they drove to work 6 hrs ago or just keeps forgetting).
Similar to user experience and focus groups in agile software devopment operations (devops) that get the developers and operators as close to the development cycles as possible... when release/revision speed is of significant importance.
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Not to be mean but most SA Tesla employees only know where the store is they work for. Not much more about the inner workings of Tesla. Add to that the entire employee only car concept is a huge assumption created here on a forum. Nothing more.
Mrbrock
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The 2021 RWD SR Model Y in my driveway suggests otherwise.
This is incorrect. There is something “wrong” with 4680. They did not reach the expected goals for energy density and there is much more than expected weight for the pack which is why the 4680 SR has lower than expected range for pack size. Yes they can add more cells but the extra weight means an 80kwh 4680 pack is going to weight more and have less range than an 80kwh 2170 pack. Based on this and unless there are further advancements in 4680 energy density and weight savings, the LR and P MY will continue as is with 2170 for a while. Tesla confirmed as much during the earnings call saying Austin would start building non-structural 2170 cars by the end of the year. That means new castings for body in white to support non-structural battery. Why create this then switch that line to structural 4680 in the near future?
No, the only people who have posted that they have received SR AWD cars are employees. Who shortly after removed said tweets and posts. Tesla appears to have an NDA For these. Don’t talk about them. Regarding an SA not knowing about them, maybe they haven’t been offered to SAs in Illinois. Maybe they are only being offered to employees who work at Austin and Fremont in non-sales roles. Sales people will say anything to sell a car so an NDA would mean nothing to them if it means more profit in their pocket.
I have a similar take. I believe in their last earnings call Tesla stated the 2170 line was also part of a risk mitigation plan. You don't make that kind of capital investment as part of a mitigation plan if you don't foresee significant risk to the baseline design (4680).
Just wild speculation but my reading of the tea leaves is that Tesla is not able to meet technical objectives for 4680 yet (maybe in the future). Hence their statement that 4680 is NOT a production constraint while at the same time planning for 2170 cars to be built in Austin.
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If they haven't done crash testing with the Model Y with the structural pack yet, they probably need to. That's an entirely different car from a crash performance perspective. And if crash test results were...suboptimal, they may have had to take cells out of the pack to allow for additional deformation space, leading to a lower capacity, or any number of other problemos that can come up when you actually test your product thoroughly, which may have come as a shock to Tesla what with their typical sell first and test later approach
It'll get there.
It'll get there.
BGOwner
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I am sure they’re not allowed to deliver the vehicle to employees or other entities are their company for general use if it has not been crash test it.
Sorry just not buying the double dog secret hiding of thousands of employee cars that nobody has seen nor any family member, neighbor, general on the street parking lot has never been seen. No NDA is that good nor that hidden from site. Not even Apple can hide new concept phones and those are in a pocket. Just seems this forum has taken an Assumption and made it a tall tale.
The problem is that they look just like every other Model Y on the street, the only way you would know the difference is by looking at the VIN or vehicle information screen. Do you look at the VIN of every Model Y you see to see if it is a Giga Texas made Standard Dual Motor? They are hidden in plain sight...
buddhafree
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No doubt Tesla is good with making up the rules as they go but again there isn't enough supply to meet any demand and Tesla likes to keep costs down and keep SAs clueless.
Yep, plus keeping transportation costs low with relatively close local buyers.
Mrbrock
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There are Austin vehicles licensed/registered and on the road. There are pictures of them in the wild driven by aTesla employees. This means they have passed whatever testing is needed or they wouldn’t be able to be registered and driven on the street.
And look up Tesla Model Y crash test info. They don’t do it every year. We know they switched to one piece rear cast at Fremont which would be a major structural change and there is no reported additional testing of Model Y since its introduction.
So they are double dog secret hiding all the cars there are producing where? We see them parked outside and being loaded onto transporters. Where are they going? Why has every single post from an owner of these vehicles been tied to a Tesla employee and immediately removed from whatever platform it was posted on? They are Model Y with the same wheels and dual motor badging as every LR MY produced in Fremont.
You can be as skeptical as you want but please provide a valid viable alternative as to what is happening to the hundreds of cars per week that Austin is producing. If you don’t have a viable alternative theory then the best theory is the one in front of you. It is known that Tesla energy around Austin is driving SR AWD MY as work vehicles. Employees have posted that they took delivery after/at the rodeo and those posts were taken down shortly after.
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leaftoy
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Tesla service center sent me to Hertz for a service loaner recently and Hertz gave me a Y. It was a Fremont made Y probably made in early Feb going by the VIN.
Mrbrock
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Since Austin production 4680 is only going to fleets (Hertz) and NOT employees then you must have been driving a secret Fremont 4680 fleet car…
#sarcasm
MontyFloyd
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