Yeah but according to the same study you linked Tesla was far worse than most. The industry average was 180 problems per 100 vehicles, Tesla was at 226; only 6 of 36 manufactures had more problems. When you’re paying $70K for a product it shouldn’t be in the bottom quartile of quality.Folks let's not pretend Tesla is the only manufacturer with QC issues.
New Vehicle Quality Plummets in the Wake of the Pandemic
J.D. Power's 2022 Initial Quality Study shows that car quality is slipping.www.newsweek.com
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Model Y LR built in Giga Austin!!
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I wouldn’t accept delivery. They might be able to fix them to your satisfaction, but maybe not.
CyberGus
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ElectricAnt54
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True, if the panel gaps & misalignments are not acceptable and you don’t want to risk tesla not being able to address to satisfaction or refuse to try stating issues are within specifications , then reject the car.
In my case for whatever reasons I did not notice the visual issues until a week later although I looked at car for 45 minutes before driving off Tesla’s lot. The trunk making snare drum sounds and my ears feeling plugged up due to pressure changes in cabin we’re only noticed when on freeway or roads.
I got lucky and the 5 or 6 gap/alignment issues were fixxed by Tesla. The fixes corrected trunk snare drum noises and cabin pressure issues. Not everyone gets lucky. If a car gets rejected multiple times, I suspect at some point tesla would try to address the issues. One never knows.
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...probably because if you don't get it right the first time, they ship you off to a re-education camp
Haha. Very funny....probably because if you don't get it right the first time, they ship you off to a re-education camp
How about they actually care about doing their job correctly.
Yes, their Q1 numbers were their best ever, yet Elon follows that up with some out of blue layoffs, mostly (I think) to blunt the significant drop in delivered cars for Q2 due to Shanghai.
The stock price is based on unicorn happy path performance. If they don't deliver 100% YoY,. it falters. So they're still acting very much in the short term, not the longer term as you see at Honda and Toyota. These layoffs of people they just hired, gave no notice to, will have some detrimental impact of future hiring. They've been in a strong position for this, but so was Facebook once, and now...different picture.
Q3 should show outstanding numbers as Shanghai is closer to normality, Austin is now moving volume, and Berlin also ramps up. We'll see if it still has the same last 2 week dash in September.
ElectricAnt54
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More likely any complaints are not posted here due to China firewall and people in China knowing not to speak negatively about quality of products made in China else they face the wrath of the government.
Don't forget EU gets MIC MYs generally received higher remakrs on QC and build qualities vs Fremont.
Unless of course you think EU is censored like China.
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ElectricAnt54
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You might be correct that EU is not as censored as China...here is an EU citizen reporting quality issue with his China made model y in 2022. Another EU customer sold their MIC Model 3.
Tesla Vehicles Made in China Also Present Paint Problems
Tesla owners in Canada, Finland, and some other cold-weather markets discovered soon that vehicles from the company could present serious paint problems. So far, they had only been noticed in cars made in Fremont. Giga Shanghai apparently did a better job with its paint shop. Unfortunately, that...
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One of those six is VW, and across all brands BEVs average 240, which Tesla beats.
Well, they CAN and HAVE gotten it right. My car was fine. But I suspect at EOQ they are doing less QA at the factory in an effort to deliver cars. So, with Tesla, it's a take-off on the old 'Don't buy a car built on a Monday or Tuesday' - 'Don't buy a Tesla built after mid-March/June/Sept/Dec'...
CyberGus
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It sounds like we need some sort of "dealer center" is each city to receive the finished cars, and give then a thorough detailing prior to delivery. I'm sure they'll only take a small cut of the profits.
CyberGus
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But these “dealer ships” could also facilitate the purchase of add-ons, like rustproofing and undercoating.
EVer Hopeful
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My response to the "Do you want to add paint protection?" was always "Well if the paint on this vehicle is so bad that it needs protection, then maybe I should be looking for a different vehicle"
You joke.. but that's probably good advice. Mine was built in February and it's pretty much perfect. I spent a good 2hours overlooking everything before actually clicking accept on delivery and the best I could come up with was an interior panel in the hatch area that wasn't perfectly lined up.Well, they CAN and HAVE gotten it right. My car was fine. But I suspect at EOQ they are doing less QA at the factory in an effort to deliver cars. So, with Tesla, it's a take-off on the old 'Don't buy a car built on a Monday or Tuesday' - 'Don't buy a Tesla built after mid-March/June/Sept/Dec'...
Tesla is spending more money in service calls addressing it after the fact. Perhaps they're hoping enough customers will accept faults that it works out.
Companies that short change QC don't come out ahead.