Don’t sweat it, I do this all the time in my wife’s X3 on the way to taking my kid to school. Never in my 15yrs of dropping her off, have I ever spilled my coffee. Granted, it’s within a 7mi. uneventful drive but I am the same as you, I don’t like drinking hot coffee from a sipper mug.
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Model Y Review by a Hater
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sleepydoc
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Agree, but I have problems with coffee sloshing out even with a lid.
Not necessarily!
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gx9901
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Really? I've had drinks from McDonald's, Starbucks, boba tea places, Tesla branded metal drink bottle, Yeti 32 oz tumbler (daily coffee drinker), various other fast food cups (with lids), open pop cans, you name it, in my cup holder over the 30k miles so far (I almost always drive around with some sort of drink in the cup holder). Never once have I had any liquid splash out in my '21 MYP while driving. My wife did spill some coffee once in my cup holder, but that was with the car parked.
I'm not doubting you or anything, just find it interesting how our experiences would be so different, especially since we're both in the Twin Cities.
In college, I would eat chicken nuggets while dipping them in the sauce container sitting right on the center armrest console of my car. Unless you were taking corners like a racecar driver.. rolling down a cobbled street or slamming on brakes at every stoplight.. the suspension in a typical sedan or SUV is smooth as butter. And I'm talking about driving a Camry. If it was a Lexus, you wouldn't even know the road imperfections were there.
Granted I do actually prefer the sporty setup of the Model Y as it makes for a lot of fun driving fast through backroads or taking highway exits. I just don't always want a ride that rough.. especially not when driving around DC which has terrible streets. Most importantly, its just not expected from a 5 or 7 seat SUV/crossover to have suspension this stiff. I could understand something like Model 3 Performance having such a stiff & jarring ride.. as that's probably the closest thing to a sports car Tesla sells.. sits very low to the ground and has a dedicated track mode.
As for the clown show. It will never bother me. If there is one thing I knew before even thinking about buying a Tesla.. is there are a lot of people who worship this brand so deeply they probably have the CEO's name tattooed somewhere on their body.
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The clown show os common on many car forums. It’s amazingly how personally people take objective comments, like they are being paid by the automaker to be cheerleaders. Even when I owned a Ferrari, 911’s, etc. in my wasteful spending years, I never took a bad comment personally. To me, they are just tools that are parked in the garage for the moments I need them. No car is perfect and based on my test drive of the MYLR they would be for my wife, it had many flaws but didn’t completely take away the feeling it would still make a great little errand car. Believe me, I much prefer the Taycan and would buy that over the MYLR in a heartbeat but my wife doesn’t like how low it sits and the lack of space compared to the MY. I may still may order one tonight just to be done with it and make the lady happy.
The ride is stiff. My old Model 3 was like that too. It is clearly evident on the test drive. You can do an Internet search and there are multiple articles and videos talking about it. But what I didn't know when I plopped down my $250 on 1/14, hurriedly trying to beat the mad rush, is that Tesla removed radar and sensors from the Y. Plus you now have Auto Pilot phantom braking, Musk opening up the charging network, and the quality issues still are not resolved. And this has given me pause on taking delivery. I better make up my mid soon. I have an EDD 10-24 this month.
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sleepydoc
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You realize that there is actually a spectrum of ride quality and many people want something softer than a brick but firmer than a down pillow, right? LIke I’ve said, I’ve driven many cars and plenty thad had good road feel and handling while still riding comfortably.
Comments like this bother me - they essentially try to dismiss someone’s complaint by falsely giving choices of extremes and lumping the person as someone who likes the other extreme.
German vehicle are typically suspended to provide rock solid response on the unlimited speed Autobahn.
American cars have different parameters. If you are used to the German stuff, perhaps the Tesla will be less familiar.
Perhaps an acceptable offering will come from the aftermarket, with higher spec. shocks and springs. Bilstein should be up to the task.
American cars have different parameters. If you are used to the German stuff, perhaps the Tesla will be less familiar.
Perhaps an acceptable offering will come from the aftermarket, with higher spec. shocks and springs. Bilstein should be up to the task.
So I’m literally in a Tesla Center now and gave a tech (not a sales cat) the gist of this thread and the whole old v new suspension etc. He said they’ve not changed the springs or dampers on the Y ever - the ‘comfort’ update they made was a control arm tweak.
Not sure how that could make things more supple but there you have it.
I have a 2023 Y with no USS and crap ride quality.
But it farts on demand
Your faith in the service center tech is heartwarming, but misguided. When people getting the new MYP with the change to the rear brakes asked about it, service center tech's had no idea what they were talking about... that is just one example that "springs" to mind... yeah, bad pun intended
Keith
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If your Contigo cup spills you have the wrong cup. Contigo has several versions. The one with the spring loaded button is the only one that is truly spill proof. The instant you release pressure on the button it snaps shut, o rings and all, the only way to spill with it is to turn it over while holding the button down, a deliberate move. It can be dropped in the seat, dropped on the floor, dropped on a concrete parking lot, zero spill.
I’ve purchased a couple hundred different style “no spill” coffee cups and only the spring loaded Contigo lives up to that claim. My motivation for this search for a spill proof coffee cup was my BMW 7 series which had the worst designed cup holders ever. A complex folding contraption that pops out of the dash. The entire scissor design was held together with a tiny piece of cheap plastic 4 mm long and 1 mm in diameter. When it broke, which it did on a regular basis, the entire holder would fall out of the dash in pieces. Replacement cost was nearly $300 for parts alone. I had it replaced four times under warranty, then had it glued shut once it was out of warranty. I talked with an engineer at BMW USA about it and his reply was, “If you want a cup holder, buy a coffee table.” I replied that a coffee table was better engineered for its purpose than BMW’s cup holder. He told me to f*** off and hung up on me. Now THAT’S customer service!
Zcd1
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Daekwan has already shared that they are not interested in a travel mug - they want a 60K EV that handles like a sports car but rides like a Rolls Royce…so they can drive around with an open beverage without it spilling…
You want to drive or drink coffee? That is the BMW attitude.
sleepydoc
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I use the same cup that I've used for the last 10 years and never spills in any other car. If the only cup you can use is one that can be used in a demolition derby it's a pretty poor commentary on the suspension.
As per the old test cycle, they were allowed to do a lot more than that.
In addition to taping doors, they also removed the passenger side wing mirror (Technically not a requirement in a lot of European countries), they also put in a smaller, lighter battery, that would only have enough juice to start the car and run it for 30 minutes, they would remove the alternator belt, so the car would not have to spin the alternator, and i have even heard of instances of them putting very thin oil in the engine to lower internal resistance. The engine would seize up if driven with the thin oil on a regular basis.
All to "pump" up the range, to be able to put bigger numbers in their sales material, but also because in some European countries, the road tax is more a "Pollution tax" and this is usually calculated based on the mileage. The logic behind this is "The more mpg, the less it pollutes per mile driven".
As per the NEDC cycle my previous diesel car was rated at 66 mpg on the NEDC cycle, but in 2018 they were forced to retest my exact model / engine combo, it using the WLTP cycle and then it only got 47 mpg
In realility the 47 mpg was fairly possible to achieve, the 66 would only have been possible if you started the journey at the top of a very large mountain and only tested while driving down the mountain
47 was not possible in winter, if mainly doing shorter 20 miles or less trips, as the diesel took forever to warm up the engine.
They get away with it because they have a whole legion to make excuses for them.
sleepydoc
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I routinely have drives that average 240 Wh/mi in the summer. That equates to 300 miles.
What faith would that be?Your faith in the service center tech is heartwarming, but misguided. When people getting the new MYP with the change to the rear brakes asked about it, service center tech's had no idea what they were talking about... that is just one example that "springs" to mind... yeah, bad pun intended
Keith
