Zhe Wiz
I’m Done Here
At the expense of safety. Bad trade-off, my friend!Ah, see, you said comfort. Yep, I want to be comfortable.
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At the expense of safety. Bad trade-off, my friend!Ah, see, you said comfort. Yep, I want to be comfortable.
It is off topic, but far from “silly”. Every car forum I’ve been a member of, people whine about the mirrors and blind spots. Every time it’s because of misadjusted mirrors.Silly argument, boyz...take it to private messaging.
Thanks. So do you lose the defroster then?Yep. Easy install. I didn't bend the tabs (they were pre-bent)
Easy plug in. Defroster works. Auto dimming does not work.Thanks. So do you lose the defroster then?
I really like them. Gets rid of that awful blind spot. It's pretty bad. The noise pulling the old mirrors off is unnerving - it's simple, but, jeez.Ok, thanks. I don't want auto dimming anyway.
Thank you for your reply! On those local roads where construction was going on, how would you describe the ride of your Y? I agree on all the other advantages that you describe about the Y but ride could be a real deal braker for us.I had a Model S loaner for about a week while an AC compressor oil leak in my brand new 2020 Long Range Model Y was repaired. The estimated 2016 Model S was 4 years old, had 66k miles. The Model S seemed more planted on the road than the Model Y. There is no denying that the longer wheel base of the Model S helps provide a superior ride. This was a RWD Model S, locked in Chill mode. Even so, I was able to appreciate the sensation of the strong thrust of the RWD electric motor. I don't know if the Model S had the air suspension. I recall that when driving local roads where major road construction had been going on for more than a year the Model S just seemed to float over the uneven road surfaces. I did not drive the Model S on the highway during the time I had the Model S.
I am confident I made the right decision in getting the Model Y. The higher seating/driving position, ease of entry and overall size of the Model Y makes it more suitable for local streets and parking lots/garages. The Model S fit in my garage but was at least one foot longer than the Model Y. The interior of the Model S was beyond minimalist, even spartan compared to the Model Y and the Model Y is devoid of most passenger cabin features such as grab handles. Not having a center console in the Model S was beyond annoying as any item placed in the center between the front seats would move around. The center arm rest of the Model S was poorly designed; whenever you extend the arm rest the cup holders were not accessible.
Now that there is a refreshed Model S available starting with Plaid I'm still not interested in owning a Model S. I almost never have rear seat passengers so the rear seats screens would never be used. I'm not a fan of the yoke steering wheel.
I drive local roads most of the time, rarely faster than 45 to 50 MPH (75 km/hr). Most of the local roads have a maximum speed limit of 35 MPH (56 km/hr). When approaching a rough patch of road such as a construction zone I always slow down. (The noted road construction zone has a 30 MPH speed limit.) Reducing the speed of the Model Y helps prevent bottoming out the suspension. This road construction zone has been patched, paved and fitted with steel plates and dug up repeatedly. This short stretch of road is usually restricted to only one or two lanes of traffic instead of the normal three lanes so I have learned to avoid it entirely. If I stick to the speed limit (30 MPH) on another longer road (about a mile in length with only two stop signs) that has seen its share of repairs the ride is firm without being harsh. If I drive faster than 30 MPH on that longer road I notice the imperfections in the road surface. It is worth noting that tire pressure makes a difference (+2 lbs of tire pressure over the recommended 42 PSI improves the ride in my opinion). Temperature seems to make a difference too. In colder weather the suspension of my Model Y seems stiffer.Thank you for your reply! On those local roads where construction was going on, how would you describe the ride of your Y? I agree on all the other advantages that you describe about the Y but ride could be a real deal braker for us.
Thank you for a very thorough reply. «Stiff but not harsh» I guess I could live with.I drive local roads most of the time, rarely faster than 45 to 50 MPH (75 km/hr). Most of the local roads have a maximum speed limit of 35 MPH (56 km/hr). When approaching a rough patch of road such as a construction zone I always slow down. (The noted road construction zone has a 30 MPH speed limit.) Reducing the speed of the Model Y helps prevent bottoming out the suspension. This road construction zone has been patched, paved and fitted with steel plates and dug up repeatedly. This short stretch of road is usually restricted to only one or two lanes of traffic instead of the normal three lanes so I have learned to avoid it entirely. If I stick to the speed limit (30 MPH) on another longer road (about a mile in length with only two stop signs) that has seen its share of repairs the ride is firm without being harsh. If I drive faster than 30 MPH on that longer road I notice the imperfections in the road surface. It is worth noting that tire pressure makes a difference (+2 lbs of tire pressure over the recommended 42 PSI improves the ride in my opinion). Temperature seems to make a difference too. In colder weather the suspension of my Model Y seems stiffer.
I have a MY LR AWD, and yes, according to my wife, my kid, and even myself, it is a rough ride on any road that is not smooth. Air suspension would be the best ride. However, you can upgrade the MY or M3 suspension with springs (OK maybe) or more expensive coilovers for a much improved, comfortable ride. Air suspension would be best, but Elon Musk has said that he won't offer Air suspension as an option or upgrade, so that means the springs or coilovers. See the thread I started here.I understand that the Y will be somewhat stiffer but am concerned that it will also have a more unsettled ride, bouncing more all over the place on irregular surfaces while the S just glides along. Am I correct or is this worry unfounded?
IANAL (I am not a lawyer), but I believe that the law says that they can't invalidate the warranty except for those parts, or damage caused by the replacement parts.I‘m a bit concerned about upgrading the springs - wouldn’t it void the factory warranty? Apart from that it seems a logical thing to do.
You're correct that tires can make a big difference. In the case of the MY, there's enough noise in the messages to suggest suspension issues are more than just imagination.I am amused by many of the ride comments… some even putting on coil overs. Tire may be the source of your problems. Prius was terrible, Civic was terrible, BMW was terrible, and all were great after changing tires. Why Manufactures spend millions on suspension development and then put on cheap tires… ?
Already planning to pull the cheapies and put on Bridgestone QuietTracks. Made a huge difference on our BMW 340i.