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Model Y Road Trip Experience

jwuwu

Member
Feb 21, 2020
149
262
Bay Area
My fiancee and I took a first ever ten days road trip with the Y last week. We went from the Bay Area to Grand Teton National Park and Yellowstone. Overall, it was a great experience trip, can't wait to do something like it again.

I did run into an issue though towards the end of the trip with supercharging which I will elaborate below.

Just going to go over some of my thoughts regarding the trip with the Y and what to keep in mind if you decide to take a road trip in your Y and you're planning to sleep in it.

We spent eight of the nights in RV Parks and two nights in hotels. When we slept in the Y, we used the Tesmat mattress and their bedsheet:

TESMAT

I'm driving a Performance model Y with 20" induction wheels. I drove the car on "chill mode" the whole trip.

The Trip

The Good:

Overall the trip was awesome! I drove and used FSD/AP on the way there and back.
I used TeslaFi to log the trip here:

Screen Shot 2020-06-23 at 4.18.33 PM.png


I think autopilot is amazing, it made the drive to the parks less stressful and I wasn't tired at the end of the day. It also allowed me to enjoy the scenery a lot more. Each way took about 16hrs (Including charging) and 923 miles to get to Wyoming so I decided to split drive to two days (500 miles first day and 400 miles the following), there and back. I used BetterRoutePlanner to see where to charge and how long to charge for. I charge a bit more than what the app suggested so it'd give me more less range anxiety since this is our first ever EV roadtrip. I found that the Tesla estimation of how much battery is left at the destination is more accurate than BetterRoutePlanner.

I did not use AP in the national parks because of the wildlife and potholes which AP can't avoid.

Camp mode was really useful, adjusted the temperature really well during the night as the temperature in the parks fluctuated from 70F to 30s throughout the day. It also snowed for one day in Yellowstone and the heat pump was working great.

Range in Yellowstone:

I was able to drive around in Yellowstone without having to worry about the range. I charge the car up to 95% each day and I got back to the RV parks with 40%-50% battery left at the end of the day. It's also really efficient to drive in Yellowstone since the speed limit doesn't go over 45mph so with the Y I was getting 110% efficiency in the park. I didn't charge inside the park at all with the Y, there are a couple places you can charge though, you can find them on Plugshare. The RV parks we stayed at are 3 - 22 miles away from the park.

Car is a great convo starter, even from a 6ft distance away.

The Bad:

Most of the RV parks have gravel, which doesn't sound nice when I heard the rocks hitting the car. There's also a major road work being done north of West Yellowstone right now so it's about half of mile of gravel driving. I do have full frontal PPF and ceramic coating done on the car but those rocks really like the rocker panels. I got some minuscule rock chips on the rocker panels which I got some touch up paint for to fix. Might get PPF done for the rocker panels.

Camp mode allows the car to be on and open all the time but it turns the sentry mode off, not sure why. I wish Tesla could give us the option to turn it back on, just in case something happens while we're sleeping in the car and I don't have wake up to save the footage.

Tesmat mattress- the mattress is nicely designed in terms of being compact and easy to store but it's not very comfortable if you're a side sleeper like me, took some time adjusted to. I think next time I'll get a padded topper on it to see if it'll help with the comfort. The whole trip we left the mattress and bed sheets setup, didn't bother to pack it up because it would become a hassle especially when there are a ton of bugs flying around

Windshield wiper is a hit or miss when it's set on auto. Sometimes it doesn't turn on when it's raining. Sometimes it's going at full speed when it's only a drizzle but when it's pouring it's going slow as hell. I don't know how many times I had to press the left stalk button myself to turn it on and get it going.

Rare or non-existent reception in the park so be sure to download the apps for Yellowstone and Grand Teton Park. Also download the offline maps for Google maps or your navigation app because that will come in handy to let you find places around the park you want to go to.

Sleeping in the RV parks means sharing public bathroom and shower facilities so make sure to bring your own cleaning supplies, toiletries, and towels especially during this time. Not all of them are clean and not everyone is mindful of social distancing/wearing masks.

The Ugly: Charging Equipment At Fault

Thankfully this happened on the way back of our trip. While I was supercharging the Y at Twin Falls, Idaho, I noticed the Y would charge a few minutes then stop completely, then start again. I thought it was a stall issue so I moved to a different one. It happened again twice but I was able to finish charging and started driving again.

When we got to Elko, Nevada supercharger, I plugged the car in at an open stall. I got three beeps and the error message "Charging Equipment at Fault".
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I reset the car once and moved to the stall next to me. Same issue. I moved to a stall next to a charging car. Same issue.
This is when I started having anxiety set in because I only had 9% battery left.

I put in a roadside assistance request on the app and someone reached out via text. We went through power cycling the car (Controls > Safety and Security > Power off. Wait two mins, then open door). Same issue. Then the agent asked me to go to Walmart across the street because there are free charging there. Nope, turns out it's Electrify America chargers and I don't have a chademo adapter. Now I'm down to 7%. I went into Walmart and got a dust blower, went back to the supercharger, tried to clean the port, and no luck.

Agent then suggested to try a destination charger or the mobile connector. I went to Ledgestone hotel nearby with 6% left and thankfully that worked and started charging. We stayed there for the night. The next day I charged the car to 100% and then drove 2 hours and charge for 4 hours in Winnemuca, drive for 2 and a half more hours, charge for 6.5 hours in Reno. And finally made it home at 2am in the morning.

I have an appointment this Thursday to take a look at the issue. I'm assuming the DC charging module blew out on the car and that the charge port needs to be replaced.

If level 2 or AC charging didn't work, the car would need to be towed to the nearest service center.. Salt Lake City or Reno.

I realized that without supercharging is very inconvenient, especially when you're on a road trip and you're in the middle of nowhere.

Verdict:
I'm glad this didn't happen in the beginning of the trip or when I was in Yellowstone, if it did, my confidence level in another EV trip could be really different.

I hope it'll be a simple fix and I am looking forward to our next adventure with the Y!

Some Trip Pictures:


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Here is our itinerary for the trip in case people are interested, I also included the charging options they provide-

Day 1
June 12th - 13th


Double Dice RV Park

3730 E. Idaho St.

Elko, NV. 89801

NEMA 14-50

Day 2
June 13th - June 14th


Anvil Hotel

215 N Cache St, Jackson, WY, 83001

Day 3 - 5

June 14th - 16th

Signal Mountain Campground

Signal Mountain Campground electric spots. (First come first serve). We got spot 29. Be sure to go at 7am-8am and find one of these spots for plug in-


1: 30 Foot Camper

2: 30 Foot Camper Electric

3: 30 Foot Camper Electric

5: 20 Foot Camper Electric

6: 20 Foot Camper Electric

7: 30 Foot Camper Full Hook-ups (The Gem)

9: 30 Foot Camper Electric

11&12: 20 Foot Camper Electric

20: 20 Foot Camper Electric

22&23 Van Electric

26: 30 Foot Camper Electric

28: 25 Foot Camper Electric

29: Van Electric (Spot we got)

30: Van Electric

33: 20 Foot Camper Electric

34: 20 Foot Camper Electric

35: 25 Foot Camper Electric

36: 30 Foot Camper Electric

NEMA 14-50

Day 6

June 16th - 17th

Yellowstone Grizzly RV Park & Cabins

210 S Electric St

West Yellowstone MT 59758

NEMA 14-50

Day 7
June 17th - 18th


Yellowstone RV Park

121 Hwy 89 s

Gardiner MT 59030

NEMA TT-30 and 120v.

Day 8 - 9
June 18th - 20th


Yellowstone Holiday Resort Lakeside

16990 Hebgen Lake Road, West Yellowstone, Montana 59758, United States

P11 Spot (Lake view)

NEMA 14-50


Day 10
June 20th - 21st


Head Home

Ledgestone Hotel
Elko, NV

Destination Charger

Happy road tripping everyone! Stay safe!
 
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John Falconer

Member
May 17, 2020
11
9
NorCal
Thanks for your report and the lovely pictures. Tough luck about the charging - has that been resolved and, if so, what was the issue and what was done to repair?
 

jwuwu

Member
Feb 21, 2020
149
262
Bay Area
Thanks for your report and the lovely pictures. Tough luck about the charging - has that been resolved and, if so, what was the issue and what was done to repair?

Going in this coming Thursday at 1:30pm to see what's going on, they'll run the logs from the car. I will update with the issue and resolution.
 
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bruce4000

Member
Jul 8, 2019
157
240
Seattle
Great trip report. I am hoping to do similar trips when I get my Y. How was it sleeping with two in the Y? I’m a bit concerned it may be a bit narrow and the wife won’t be happy.
 
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jwuwu

Member
Feb 21, 2020
149
262
Bay Area
Great trip report. I am hoping to do similar trips when I get my Y. How was it sleeping with two in the Y? I’m a bit concerned it may be a bit narrow and the wife won’t be happy.

Good question.

My fiancee is 5'5" and I'm 5'9". We didn't have to adjust the seating position of the front seats to make ourselves fit. It's like fitting two on a twin bed that's a little wider but not as long. My feet was touching the hatch. I imagine people will need to have a front seat adjustment setting saved for sleeping if they're taller.

My fiancee was more concerned about the temperature than the room though, she slept like a baby with camp mode on at 70F.
 

jmichaels

Member
Jun 15, 2020
40
20
Orange County, Calif
Thanks for the great report. Two questions: Do you have the PUP package to get those red calipers? And second question on range...where you able to determine if 316 mile rating is a "real" number w your 20" wheels and based on your trip data? I took delivery a week ago of a white long range w/20" wheels and now thinking range might not be anywhere near 316. Yikes.
 

jwuwu

Member
Feb 21, 2020
149
262
Bay Area
Thanks for the great report. Two questions: Do you have the PUP package to get those red calipers? And second question on range...where you able to determine if 316 mile rating is a "real" number w your 20" wheels and based on your trip data? I took delivery a week ago of a white long range w/20" wheels and now thinking range might not be anywhere near 316. Yikes.

Yes, I had the PUP package and I traded the Uberturbines for the Inductions wheels back in April.

No, you won't get 316 range unless you drive on average 55mph or less in perfect conditions. I think with the inductions, it's about 250 miles average of realistic range. Conditions come in play like speed, elevation gain or loss, temp, and weather.

Here is an example of my longest leg back from Reno to my home from TeslaFi-

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My 254 wh/mi is due to a decrease in elevation and I was going exactly at the speed limit most of the way to maximize my range except for towards the end when I knew I had enough battery to make it home so i sped up quite a bit. The weather was good and there was barely any wind.

My current lifetime is 273wh/mi at 80.1% efficiency so 253.12 miles of range realistically with the inductions.
 

jmichaels

Member
Jun 15, 2020
40
20
Orange County, Calif
Yes, I had the PUP package and I traded the Uberturbines for the Inductions wheels back in April.

No, you won't get 316 range unless you drive on average 55mph or less in perfect conditions. I think with the inductions, it's about 250 miles average of realistic range. Conditions come in play like speed, elevation gain or loss, temp, and weather.

Here is an example of my longest leg back from Reno to my home from TeslaFi-

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My 254 wh/mi is due to a decrease in elevation and I was going exactly at the speed limit most of the way to maximize my range except for towards the end when I knew I had enough battery to make it home so i sped up quite a bit. The weather was good and there was barely any wind.

My current lifetime is 273wh/mi at 80.1% efficiency so 253.12 miles of range realistically with the inductions.
Very helpful and useful info. Thank you a bunch for sharing.
 
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DonATL

Member
Jun 17, 2020
5
1
Atlanta, GA
My fiancee and I took a first ever ten days road trip with the Y last week. We went from the Bay Area to Grand Teton National Park and Yellowstone. Overall, it was a great experience trip, can't wait to do something like it again.

I did run into an issue though towards the end of the trip with supercharging which I will elaborate below.

Just going to go over some of my thoughts regarding the trip with the Y and what to keep in mind if you decide to take a road trip in your Y and you're planning to sleep in it.

We spent eight of the nights in RV Parks and two nights in hotels. When we slept in the Y, we used the Tesmat mattress and their bedsheet:

TESMAT

I'm driving a Performance model Y with 20" induction wheels. I drove the car on "chill mode" the whole trip.

The Trip

The Good:

Overall the trip was awesome! I drove and used FSD/AP on the way there and back.
I used TeslaFi to log the trip here:

View attachment 555429

I think autopilot is amazing, it made the drive to the parks less stressful and I wasn't tired at the end of the day. It also allowed me to enjoy the scenery a lot more. Each way took about 16hrs (Including charging) and 923 miles to get to Wyoming so I decided to split drive to two days (500 miles first day and 400 miles the following), there and back. I used BetterRoutePlanner to see where to charge and how long to charge for. I charge a bit more than what the app suggested so it'd give me more less range anxiety since this is our first ever EV roadtrip. I found that the Tesla estimation of how much battery is left at the destination is more accurate than BetterRoutePlanner.

I did not use AP in the national parks because of the wildlife and potholes which AP can't avoid.

Camp mode was really useful, adjusted the temperature really well during the night as the temperature in the parks fluctuated from 70F to 30s throughout the day. It also snowed for one day in Yellowstone and the heat pump was working great.

Range in Yellowstone:

I was able to drive around in Yellowstone without having to worry about the range. I charge the car up to 95% each day and I got back to the RV parks with 40%-50% battery left at the end of the day. It's also really efficient to drive in Yellowstone since the speed limit doesn't go over 45mph so with the Y I was getting 110% efficiency in the park. I didn't charge inside the park at all with the Y, there are a couple places you can charge though, you can find them on Plugshare. The RV parks we stayed at are 3 - 22 miles away from the park.

Car is a great convo starter, even from a 6ft distance away.

The Bad:

Most of the RV parks have gravel, which doesn't sound nice when I heard the rocks hitting the car. There's also a major road work being done north of West Yellowstone right now so it's about half of mile of gravel driving. I do have full frontal PPF and ceramic coating done on the car but those rocks really like the rocker panels. I got some minuscule rock chips on the rocker panels which I got some touch up paint for to fix. Might get PPF done for the rocker panels.

Camp mode allows the car to be on and open all the time but it turns the sentry mode off, not sure why. I wish Tesla could give us the option to turn it back on, just in case something happens while we're sleeping in the car and I don't have wake up to save the footage.

Tesmat mattress- the mattress is nicely designed in terms of being compact and easy to store but it's not very comfortable if you're a side sleeper like me, took some time adjusted to. I think next time I'll get a padded topper on it to see if it'll help with the comfort. The whole trip we left the mattress and bed sheets setup, didn't bother to pack it up because it would become a hassle especially when there are a ton of bugs flying around

Windshield wiper is a hit or miss when it's set on auto. Sometimes it doesn't turn on when it's raining. Sometimes it's going at full speed when it's only a drizzle but when it's pouring it's going slow as hell. I don't know how many times I had to press the left stalk button myself to turn it on and get it going.

Rare or non-existent reception in the park so be sure to download the apps for Yellowstone and Grand Teton Park. Also download the offline maps for Google maps or your navigation app because that will come in handy to let you find places around the park you want to go to.

Sleeping in the RV parks means sharing public bathroom and shower facilities so make sure to bring your own cleaning supplies, toiletries, and towels especially during this time. Not all of them are clean and not everyone is mindful of social distancing/wearing masks.

The Ugly: Charging Equipment At Fault

Thankfully this happened on the way back of our trip. While I was supercharging the Y at Twin Falls, Idaho, I noticed the Y would charge a few minutes then stop completely, then start again. I thought it was a stall issue so I moved to a different one. It happened again twice but I was able to finish charging and started driving again.

When we got to Elko, Nevada supercharger, I plugged the car in at an open stall. I got three beeps and the error message "Charging Equipment at Fault".
View attachment 555516
I reset the car once and moved to the stall next to me. Same issue. I moved to a stall next to a charging car. Same issue.
This is when I started having anxiety set in because I only had 9% battery left.

I put in a roadside assistance request on the app and someone reached out via text. We went through power cycling the car (Controls > Safety and Security > Power off. Wait two mins, then open door). Same issue. Then the agent asked me to go to Walmart across the street because there are free charging there. Nope, turns out it's Electrify America chargers and I don't have a chademo adapter. Now I'm down to 7%. I went into Walmart and got a dust blower, went back to the supercharger, tried to clean the port, and no luck.

Agent then suggested to try a destination charger or the mobile connector. I went to Ledgestone hotel nearby with 6% left and thankfully that worked and started charging. We stayed there for the night. The next day I charged the car to 100% and then drove 2 hours and charge for 4 hours in Winnemuca, drive for 2 and a half more hours, charge for 6.5 hours in Reno. And finally made it home at 2am in the morning.

I have an appointment this Thursday to take a look at the issue. I'm assuming the DC charging module blew out on the car and that the charge port needs to be replaced.

If level 2 or AC charging didn't work, the car would need to be towed to the nearest service center.. Salt Lake City or Reno.

I realized that without supercharging is very inconvenient, especially when you're on a road trip and you're in the middle of nowhere.

Verdict:
I'm glad this didn't happen in the beginning of the trip or when I was in Yellowstone, if it did, my confidence level in another EV trip could be really different.

I hope it'll be a simple fix and I am looking forward to our next adventure with the Y!

Some Trip Pictures:


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Here is our itinerary for the trip in case people are interested, I also included the charging options they provide-

Day 1
June 12th - 13th


Double Dice RV Park

3730 E. Idaho St.

Elko, NV. 89801

NEMA 14-50

Day 2
June 13th - June 14th


Anvil Hotel

215 N Cache St, Jackson, WY, 83001

Day 3 - 5

June 14th - 16th

Signal Mountain Campground

Signal Mountain Campground electric spots. (First come first serve). We got spot 29. Be sure to go at 7am-8am and find one of these spots for plug in-


1: 30 Foot Camper

2: 30 Foot Camper Electric

3: 30 Foot Camper Electric

5: 20 Foot Camper Electric

6: 20 Foot Camper Electric

7: 30 Foot Camper Full Hook-ups (The Gem)

9: 30 Foot Camper Electric

11&12: 20 Foot Camper Electric

20: 20 Foot Camper Electric

22&23 Van Electric

26: 30 Foot Camper Electric

28: 25 Foot Camper Electric

29: Van Electric (Spot we got)

30: Van Electric

33: 20 Foot Camper Electric

34: 20 Foot Camper Electric

35: 25 Foot Camper Electric

36: 30 Foot Camper Electric

NEMA 14-50

Day 6

June 16th - 17th

Yellowstone Grizzly RV Park & Cabins

210 S Electric St

West Yellowstone MT 59758

NEMA 14-50

Day 7
June 17th - 18th


Yellowstone RV Park

121 Hwy 89 s

Gardiner MT 59030

NEMA TT-30 and 120v.

Day 8 - 9
June 18th - 20th


Yellowstone Holiday Resort Lakeside

16990 Hebgen Lake Road, West Yellowstone, Montana 59758, United States

P11 Spot (Lake view)

NEMA 14-50


Day 10
June 20th - 21st


Head Home

Ledgestone Hotel
Elko, NV

Destination Charger

Happy road tripping everyone! Stay safe!

Thanks for the detailed writeup and awesome pics. I have been contemplating getting the tesmat, like the fact it includes boards on the 'head' pieces to support your head, and that it can be compressed into a small-ish bag. Appreciate info on it's comfort, or lack thereof. Maybe I should just get a cheap air mattress instead. Taking my first roadtrip this weekend, but no camping this trip. Soon hopefully.
 

jwuwu

Member
Feb 21, 2020
149
262
Bay Area
About the rocker panel chips, small mud flaps will control that much better than PPF. I used PPF on my Model 3 rocker panels but the rocks thrown up on gravel roads went right through the PPF.

Good to know. Thanks for the info! I looked for Model Y mud flaps in May but I haven't found one yet, I'm guessing they're still being tested. I also reached out to RPM awhile back and they said they're testing prototypes at the moment. Hope they'll be out soon, I'll definitely get a set.
 

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