Model Y very poor range/efficiency

[sleepydoc]

Has anyone also considered the energy density between gas and battery? That should also be factored in the equation.

That's always an issue and part of the reason it's taken so long for EVs to become viable. Gasoline is an incredibly easy and efficient way of storing energy. Even with the current state of battery technology you can transfer energy roughly 10x faster by pumping fuel vs charging a battery, and that's under ideal conditions.

Put another way, ICE efficiency improves as it gets colder because less of the waste heat is actually wasted — sone of it goes towards warming the cabin and the internal. Conversely, EV efficiency decreases because not only is the cabin being warned but potentially the battery as well. Add on to this the fact that refueling speed of ICE does not worsen in colder temps, but does for EVs.

So people in frigid climates are going to be disappointed going over to EVs until the tech evolves to 120+ kWh packs as the standard.

I think @drtimhill put it best when he said the profiles are different. ICE cars initially are very inefficient in cold weather because cold engines are very inefficient. The increased energy needed to start a cold engine contributes a bit, too. Both types suffer from cold bearings, and the power draw from electric defrosters and seats.

After they warm up, ICE vehicles do better as you say, but if you're just taking a short 10 minute trip to the store you're still probably worse off in an ICE vehicle than an EV.

The other factor is the fact that EV drivers typically focus on battery percentage and range far more than an ICE driver does. When was the last time you actually looked at the range of your ICE car? Probably never because it doesn't matter the way it does with an EV