My VIN is 7SAYGDEF4PA049XXX and the F in position 8 identifies the motor as "Dual Motor - Performance Model Y."
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Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY
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I should also add, position 11 is an A, which means it was an Austin build. As I understand, Austin doesn't even build any Performance vehicles, just LR and AWD. Perhaps Austin received some of the new 4D1 Performance motors and decided to just install in the LR and limit via the software?
Also, you previously asked about Scan My Tesla" app, what additional details would that provide?
This is how we in Europe decode the VIN as there is a leaked official VIN decoder in the type certificate.
The US VIN structure is obviously not "up to speed" yet, as you are getting an "F", which is a "Wire Winding Performance Motor".
Although it is certain, that the 4D1 has a Hairpin Winding stator:
Yes, most likely. The motor itsself doesnt need to be limited actually, but in the Long Range the Battery Power will be. A long range without boost caps at 970-980 Amps. This power is then split between the two motors. So, although the motor is not able to go to its full potential (with more Amps), we might still get a glimps at its characteristics with Scan My Tesla.
SMT with an Android device can log Power and Torque curves vs. Speed. which would tell us a lot about the characteristics of this Motor. All current generation motors, be it Wire Winding or Hairpin (3D1, 3D5, 3D6, 3D7) go up in power with speed until reaching around 80km/h and then they drop again. The Plaid for example is so powerful, because it holds its power pretty much steady after reaching its maximum power.
The main limiting factor in the Model 3 and Y dual motor is the 3D3 front motor as it drops in power significantly with speed, so a change there would be the biggest deal (as done with the Model S 2021 Refresh!).
Still, the 4D1 is currently the biggest wildcard and most interesting new Tesla motor out there, so any data is much appreciated!
Just to give you an example of power and torque measurements with Scan My Tesla...
This is data from when I measured one of the first MYP out of Giga Berlin (Nr.15 signed by E.M.) with the LG M50 Battery Pack and the (then) newest generation 3D6 Hairpin rear motor:
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This is great info, thanks for sharing. I just checked my front motor and confirmed I have the 3D3 (see attached). In regards to the "Scan My Tesla" app, can I gather any info through Bluetooth or do I need to buy some adapter cables?
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In case someone is eager to get one of the very first cars with those new generation hairpin rear motors. I've just spotted one of the first ones in the inventory. Identifier is "RD07" and probably later on also "RD08" for the base motor.
This is pulled from Tesla-info.com, but you can always pull the source code in inventory cars and just scan for RD07 yourself.
THANKS! has anyone driven the M3P or MYP with the new hairpin motor and noticed a difference?
Also is the 3D1 motor the new hairpin motor for the M3P?
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This is only like the second spotting of this new Performance motor, but in a power limited Long Range.
The 3D1 ist the old main motor (Model 3/Y/S/X), which was introduced in 2018 I beleive. The 4D1 is the first real successor in the US market.
For far only spotted out of Austin, yes and only production of the last weeks.
Thats too spedific for me to know from oversees ;-)
These Drive Unit Cat 4 motors are still unknown, but when I switched from Drive Unit CAT 1 (Wire windings) to Drive Unit Cat 2/3 (Hairpin Windings) I could measure more power at higher speeds, more torque and better efficiency. The significantly higher 30 minute power of the Drive Unit Cat 4, must surely translate into real world power that people notice.
It might need the usage in a Performance model or buying the boost in a LR for that.
OK, now we see Model Y Performance out of Fremont with the new 4D1 Performance motor as well!
eivissa, I started another thread in the Model Y forum asking which motor their new car has. People are starting to respond and some others do have the 4D1 motor. Most are MY LR from Austin with F in the 8th digit, but there is at least one MYP from Fremont with the 4D1. Just to clarify, the the RD07 code you are showing should translate into the 4D1 motor?
The other thread can be found here: What motor does your 2023 Model Y have?
The other thread can be found here: What motor does your 2023 Model Y have?
The 4D1 is the very first US motor with a hairpin stator. 3D1 (980) and 3D5 (990) are both wire windings.
Yes Option Code RD07 means 4D1 Performance Motor. Soon there will probably also be RD08 for the 4D5 Long Range / Base rear motor.
In another thread, we just located a Fremont build Model Y Performance that has a 4D1 motor manufactured in Austin on 11/19/2022.
Looks to be the 960/3D3 as suspected so no mystery there!
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