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Monroney Stickers ?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by TEG, Jul 29, 2017.

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  1. TEG

    TEG TMC Moderator

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    131 highway?
     
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    #23 TEG, Aug 6, 2017
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    Hard to read but maybe:

    Tesla Model 3 Long Range

    126 combined city/hwy
    131 city
    120 highway
    27.0 kW-hrs per 100 miles

    You save
    $4,500
    in fuel costs
    over 5 years
    compared to the
    average new vehicle.

    Again, this is hard to read from that photo. The numbers above could very well be wrong.
     
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    Sure would be nice if one of those lucky new owners would take a close up view of that sticker and post it here.
     
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    The “you could save” number seems weird, since on the i3, with a similar eMPG is $9k
     
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    I see 27 kW-hrs per 100 miles, which is consistent with 3370/126 = 26.74
     
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    #27 TEG, Aug 6, 2017
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    I wasn't sure - it is so hard to read. I was guessing based on better MPGe than some other vehicles that got 27... But I changed it back based on your caculation.
    I actually had 27 first, then changed it to 26 because I thought it must be better.
     
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    #28 jsmay311, Aug 14, 2017
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    It looks like it used to be $9k, but not anymore.

    The latest figures for the 2017 i3, show a 5-year fuel savings of only $4,000: Compare Side-by-Side You can see the specific fuel cost estimates that they're using on that page by clicking on "Personalize".

    A number of variables changed since 2014 that affect the 5-year fuel savings number:
    • Gas prices are significantly lower in 2017 vs 2014 ($2.38 vs $3.53/gal).
    • Average new cars are a bit more efficient in 2017 vs 2014 (26 vs 23 mpg)
    • The 2017 i3 is rated as slightly less efficient than the 2014 (29 vs 27 kWh/100 mi) either due to the larger/heavier battery or a change in testing methodology
    • EPA is now using a slightly higher average electricity price ($0.13/kWh vs $0.12/kWh)
    I found a 2014 i3 sticker with the $9,000 figure on it here: BMW i3 REx Status - Hold For Monroney Stickers Delays All US Deliveries But in the fine print it says it's comparing to an average new vehicle MPG of 23mpg, for a total 5-year fuel cost of $11,500 for driving 15,000 miles/year. Some quick math shows they used a gas price of $3.53/gallon. It also assumes an electricity price of $0.12/kWh
     
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    Looks like it says US/Canadian part content of 50%. With the gigafactory, I expected that to be higher...
     
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    Speculation: Mexican steel instead of Canadian aluminum in the frame.
     
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    75% from North America is pretty impressive. (As a comparison, Bolt is 26%)
     
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    3-Phase, 6-pole Internal Permanent Magnet Motor. I guess that puts the speculation to rest regarding whether or not it is induction.
     
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    Interesting. My own analysis of the raw data on the EPA submittal documents matches the mpge and kWh/100 numbers precisely. But that same analysis suggests the 310-mile range rating is conservative.
     
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    Certainly, come geek-out with us over here: [Spoiler Alert + Mild Speculation] Tesla has created a monster!
     
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    #39 anonim1979, Sep 7, 2017
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    Not in standard features.
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    you would think that a $35,000 car would have power front seats. Not worth spending $5K just for the power seat option.
     

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