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More Y Competition
- Thread starter Midnightsun
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Based on what? It felt like pulling teeth getting him to add a heated steering wheel.
I don't think Tesla should worry much, especially in the USA. What other are lacking is the reliable supercharger network. Other automakers do make some compelling vehicles. But without reliable charging network, it makes those vehicles less competitive.
One challenge with the supercharger network as a competitive advantage is “those who don’t know can’t understand”.
for those of us who have both experienced the pleasure of getting to THE one chademo station and seeing it inoperative or charging a Leaf with the driver gone for the next hour; and the super chargers, it is clearly a differentiating asset.
showing how simple fast and reliable is to supercharge would help grassroots marketing
Thanks for posting the video. I'm not sure why folks are feeling so defensive. The Ioniq 5 looks quite fantastic and it does seem to have some extra tech and features over the Model Y. Even if you plan on staying loyal to Tesla, good competition is great for keeping Tesla's prices in check and pushing them to try and get more features and tech into their existing product lines.
Personally, I found the paint color options quite nice. Smoother ride, double paned glass in the back as well and a HUD are all nice features to have, especially if it hits the anticipated USD cost pre $7500 Federal tax credit. Charging infrastructure is definitely a huge plus for Tesla, but a large number of people getting their first EVs are not going to use them as their long road trip cars but rather their daily driver and for regular commutes. I'm personally going to still have my ICE minivan for a few more years for long road trips, so charging infrastructure isn't the top priority for me.
I do have a Y on order but I'm delaying to see if the tax credits happen. If they do, the Y will be a no brained. If not, cars like the Ioniq or other future competitors are going to look appealing and I may wait a year or two for the competition to improve and for Tesla to react accordingly before taking the plunge with EVs.
Personally, I found the paint color options quite nice. Smoother ride, double paned glass in the back as well and a HUD are all nice features to have, especially if it hits the anticipated USD cost pre $7500 Federal tax credit. Charging infrastructure is definitely a huge plus for Tesla, but a large number of people getting their first EVs are not going to use them as their long road trip cars but rather their daily driver and for regular commutes. I'm personally going to still have my ICE minivan for a few more years for long road trips, so charging infrastructure isn't the top priority for me.
I do have a Y on order but I'm delaying to see if the tax credits happen. If they do, the Y will be a no brained. If not, cars like the Ioniq or other future competitors are going to look appealing and I may wait a year or two for the competition to improve and for Tesla to react accordingly before taking the plunge with EVs.
That looks like a compelling option. I’m not sure I like the interior styling, but the exterior is interesting. It’s not as fast as a Tesla, but the HUD is nice, I like that it has a few key buttons, the build quality and reliability will probably be much better, and that blue color is nice. It also charges fast. Tesla better keep moving if they want to stay on top. I do hate those digital side view mirrors. Do we really need more screens? It seems like a case of tech for tech’s sake.
AlexHung
Member
Side mirrors contribute a fair amount of aero drag so car manufacturers in general have been wanting to delete them and move to much smaller camera for lower drag coefficien. But legislations move slow and even slower in the US so we are stuck with those chunky triangle appendages for now.
I don’t like the way it looks on the outside, kind of like an off-brand e-tron. But I like the tech shown in the video. Competition is usually good for customers, so I hope that it keeps coming, whether I stay with Tesla in the future or not.
I am with you on not liking the interior. Also the side screens don’t look like they are very well integrated, and are similar to the E-tron which generate a lot of complaints from English youtubers (having to look further down to see).
It is not really possible to evaluate unless we get to see and drive it for ourselve.
Another review, more info, very impressive. First Hyundai Ioniq 5 Quick Reviews Are In And They Are All Positive
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angus[Y]oung
Active Member
@Midnightsun yeah this one was a good video, lots of cool stuff. However, the interior in my opinion is pretty awful, and the outside is unique and not terribly offensive but just not to my taste for sure. Love the 800v charging and the reverse-charging, those are nice touches.
Nice car it seems, though I thought the “undisclosed farm” was cooler looking than the vehicle.
kindofblue
Member
I considered every other EV before buying a Tesla but without the Supercharger network, none of the competition would work for me since we are a 1 car household and like to go on lots of trips (hiking, skiing, etc.)
However, we are now considering buying a second vehicle that will serve mostly as a commuter car and range/charging network is a MUCH smaller factor since we already own 1 vehicle we can reliably travel further distances in. While it's nice to see the range on these newer vehicles, it just isn't that important if you're only using it for shorter distances. Can't wait to see more options out there but until the overall charging infrastructure improves, I feel like there is no other EV that compares to Tesla for all-around usability.
However, we are now considering buying a second vehicle that will serve mostly as a commuter car and range/charging network is a MUCH smaller factor since we already own 1 vehicle we can reliably travel further distances in. While it's nice to see the range on these newer vehicles, it just isn't that important if you're only using it for shorter distances. Can't wait to see more options out there but until the overall charging infrastructure improves, I feel like there is no other EV that compares to Tesla for all-around usability.
Yeah, I think if your EV is going to be your primary car that you will also take longer road trips in, then Tesla is the no-brainer for that car. But if your first EV is mainly going to be a daily commuter and you will use a different (ICE or Tesla) car for your road trips, etc., then cars like the Ioniq 5 can be quite attractive. I know aesthetics are very subjective, but I really like the design of the Ioniq. It's different, has sharper lines and looks neat. Also the paint colors look great imo. With the Federal tax credit, it is probably going to be pretty popular with people looking to get their first EV and who can't spend the $50K+ for a Model Y without any tax incentives to help sweeten the deal.
Puma2020
Member
Elon had said, he wanted to revolutionize the world. He made EVs practical and fun. Affordable? Maybe a bit high, but the fun is high as well.
The rest of the automobile world is mostly following along kicking and screaming. There are some that are actually trying to also be innovative.
All of this is good for everyone.
The rest of the automobile world is mostly following along kicking and screaming. There are some that are actually trying to also be innovative.
All of this is good for everyone.