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MotorTrend Car of the Year 2012

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  1. Mycroft

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    #1 Mycroft, Nov 16, 2011
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    The CotY was the VW Passat. A Pa-what? They could have picked a more boring car, but not by much.

    The page with all the contenders was a more interesting read:

    2012 Motor Trend Car of the Year: Contenders and Finalists

    I can't wait to see how the Model S does next year. Kudos to Tesla for not being tempted to submit a pre-production model like Fisker did. Fisker thought the embarrassment was worth the extra publicity I guess.
     
  2. ckessel

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    I'm a bit baffled how any VW can get CotY given VW is always near the bottom of the list of manufacturers on the reliability of their cars. We had a Jetta then a Passat and swore we'd never buy a VW again. Back when I got my RX8, there was a list of reliability by manufacturer and VW was dead last and it wasn't even close (Mazda was #3, so quite good). I can't remember how it was measured though, whether it was consumer complaints or recalls, etc.
     
  3. TEG

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    Bob Lutz was talking up VW during the Charlie Rose interview.
    Their brand empire includes iconic sports and luxury cars which makes them a "car guy's halo company" of sorts, even if their run of the mill, "bread and butter" products aren't necessarily tops.

    I think there is a sense that the various COTY awards can be colored by expected advertising $, not just the raw data.
     
  4. Thumper

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    Winning COTY is not much of a distinction. Motor Trend has picked some real clunkers in the past. Chevy Vega, Chrysler K cars, Ford Torino, Plymouth Roadrunner, Renault Reliant, they had their reasons I guess, mostly points for innovation or performance but these were not very good cars. Maybe they have upped their game. Hope so.
     
  5. richkae

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    Read the article for full details on their 5 test courses...

    1. skidpad
    Model S should be able to win this one due to ridiculously low CG.

    2. straight road acceleration
    Model S should do well

    3. High speed loop to evaluate engine noise and shifting.
    Model S should win this hands down due to near zero engine noise and zero shifting.

    4. Freeway surfaces: ride quality
    Model S should do well due to body stiffness and low CG

    5. Winding road
    Model S should do very well, most likely win
     
  6. Citizen-T

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    Wow. This seems like a set of tests that was made for Model S.
     
  7. AnOutsider

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    From mark 5 and on, VW has been making some solid cars. Personally, it's hard to tell a passat from a jetta these days, but they've been pretty reliable and selling like hot cakes . *shrug*
     
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    Or Model S was designed to do everything well...
     
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    Well, lest we sound like a bunch of fan boys, that's all a bit theoretical at the moment. Should probably wait until real people have had the car on real roads to pass judgement.

    ... Wait a minute.
     
  10. VolkerP

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    Clearly, Model S is voted here to be this forum's car of the year. Now all we need is draw public attention towards TMCCotY...
     
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    Acceptance of the touchscreen center console by the press will be the make or break for Car of the Year award given by the media. How well Tesla integrates the GUI for controlling functions via the touchscreen vs. the traditional buttons is the unanswered question.
     
  12. gg_got_a_tesla

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    Maybe, they were influenced by the almost-iconic Super Bowl commercial for the 2012 Passat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0 :smile:

    My '99 Passat was built like a tank and had nary a problem; that was when it was still assembled in Germany for the North American market...
     
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    Ha! I remember the commercial, but had no idea what model car it was advertising. :)

    I agree with Tommy. The implementation of the touch screen will make or break the press coverage. How many of them will latch onto how distracting and dangerous it could be just to stir up controversy.
     
  14. gg_got_a_tesla

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    Reading through what they said about the Leaf:

    I'm not getting my hopes up for next year for the Model S; these guys are biased already - they'll gripe that a range of 300/320 (coupled with a DC fast-charging network) isn't enough either. And remember, they'll not be getting any advertising $$ from Tesla...
     
  15. AnOutsider

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    I actually think that's a fair assessment. I mean, I wouldn't say it's "NOT" a car, but yeah, I wouldn't buy a vehicle with 75 miles max range regardless of my daily commute.
     
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    Kim has always been pretty good with Tesla. I would not be so sure that he would be so quick. Though the non advertising dollars are the deal breaker here.
     
  17. ckessel

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    And you could look at it this way, if the Leaf was a finalist given it's lack of looks and short range, then maybe the odds aren't that stacked against the Model S. I would think price though might be a problem. Does CotY ever go to higher priced luxury cars? I thought usually it was more for mass market.
     
  18. Robert.Boston

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    Motor_Trend_Car_of_the_Year
    2012 Volkswagen Passat
    2011 Chevrolet Volt
    2010 Ford Fusion
    2009 Nissan GT-R
    2008 Cadillac CTS
    2007 Toyota Camry
    2006 Honda Civic
    2005 Chrysler 300
    2004 Toyota Prius
    2003 Infiniti G35
    2002 Ford Thunderbird
    2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
    2000 Lincoln LS
    1999 Chrysler 300M
    1998 Chevrolet Corvette
    1997 Chevrolet Malibu
    1996 Dodge Caravan
    1995 Chrysler Cirrus
    1994 Ford Mustang
    1993 Ford Probe GT
    1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
    1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
    1990 Lincoln Town Car

    It's worth noting that both the Prius and the Volt won in their years, so CotY has some bias towards ground-breaking electric drivetrains. Back when MT still have a separate "Import CotY", both the 5-series and the E-class won (late 90s). And there're those big luxury sedans from Detroit. So, it doesn't seem that the Model S is either too radical or too expensive to win.
     

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