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wigalo
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First I'll say that I have the motorsport spacers and they make the S look incredible.
The problem: I had a flat tire and the Tesla Road Service tow truck could not get the lug off, so my car was towed to the service center. (blessing in disguise)
They called me the next day and told me that they had to remove my spacers because several of the lugs had been sheared off.
I'm not sure what type of steel is used for the imbedded spacer lugs, but the way that they were sheared off makes me wonder if they are adequate for the higher torque that Tesla requires.
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The problem: I had a flat tire and the Tesla Road Service tow truck could not get the lug off, so my car was towed to the service center. (blessing in disguise)
They called me the next day and told me that they had to remove my spacers because several of the lugs had been sheared off.
I'm not sure what type of steel is used for the imbedded spacer lugs, but the way that they were sheared off makes me wonder if they are adequate for the higher torque that Tesla requires.
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Dameon
Pearl White Plaid
This is an interesting development.
What did Motorsport Tech say when you contacted them (as you surely should have)?
Did you not notice that you had several lug nuts missing? Do you know what spacers were on what wheels (i.e. which wheel positions had the sheared bolts)? Did you torque the lug nuts yourself or did some ham-fisted tire shop mechanic use his impact wrench at 10K ft/lbs to tighten them?
Did Tesla say anything further about using spacers in regards to warranty or coverage? What about your insurance company (if involved)?
My biggest fear has been the failure of the weak metal nuts used on the inside of the spacer (on the OEM bolts) as I can't see them if they were to fail. Maybe my fears were misplaced.
What did Motorsport Tech say when you contacted them (as you surely should have)?
Did you not notice that you had several lug nuts missing? Do you know what spacers were on what wheels (i.e. which wheel positions had the sheared bolts)? Did you torque the lug nuts yourself or did some ham-fisted tire shop mechanic use his impact wrench at 10K ft/lbs to tighten them?
Did Tesla say anything further about using spacers in regards to warranty or coverage? What about your insurance company (if involved)?
My biggest fear has been the failure of the weak metal nuts used on the inside of the spacer (on the OEM bolts) as I can't see them if they were to fail. Maybe my fears were misplaced.
Dameon
Pearl White Plaid
Tongue in cheek I'm sure, but if not, I wouldn't touch a thing on that perfect car!
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
You really dodged a bullet with the sheared off lugs... I would contact the Motorsports and have a frank discussion.
wigalo
Member
1. I did call and all they offered was to replace the lugs under warranty. He said that this has not happened before.
2. They were the spacers on the 2 front wheels. Makes sense as the turning forces seem as though they would cause more stress on the fronts.
I had a tire shop install them. I bought a torque wrench to check their work and 129 was the number.
3. The only thing that Tesla said is that when they found the sheared bolts, they removed the other wheels to check them all. That's when they found the 2nd issue. They called to tell me that they removed all of the spacers for my safety. They didn't mention anything regarding my warranty...but did repair the tire.
2. They were the spacers on the 2 front wheels. Makes sense as the turning forces seem as though they would cause more stress on the fronts.
I had a tire shop install them. I bought a torque wrench to check their work and 129 was the number.
3. The only thing that Tesla said is that when they found the sheared bolts, they removed the other wheels to check them all. That's when they found the 2nd issue. They called to tell me that they removed all of the spacers for my safety. They didn't mention anything regarding my warranty...but did repair the tire.
davidc18
Active Member
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
That is not an acceptable answer from the Motorsports Tech.
I would have my attorney send a letter to get their attention to fix a serious safety issue!
So I'm waiting for my car to show up from CPO in Friday. I got a MS 2014 P85+ with air suspension and 21in turbines, so from this post I think I should order 4 20mm spacers Or 2_15mm and 2_20mm
2nd question is, if you set your ride to low, dose it always stay low, even when you park?
If you drive in normal level, can it go to low when you park? Sorry newbie questions
2nd question is, if you set your ride to low, dose it always stay low, even when you park?
If you drive in normal level, can it go to low when you park? Sorry newbie questions
davidc18
Active Member
I don't think the 15mm spacers will fit, not enough clearance on the back of the turbines. 18mm and up fit. I had 25mm on the front and 20mm on the back of mine with staggered 21s.
Motorsports tech 20mm all around. Model S Signature 2012. 21x8.5 square/non-staggered. Lug bolts seem to be longer than later year cars and barely fit with 20mm spacers. Sorry pics where taken in evening -
after clay bar and waxing car (if it were in sunshine you could see how previous owner abused the paint). Ignore the tire foam still drying.
Aggmeister2010
Active Member
It doesn't matter. With Spacers and 21's, it will rub in all height settings. It isn't so much the HEIGHT of the car that causes it, but rather the horizontal position of the wheels in the wheel well.
Go stand in a door frame. Extend your arms out to just touch the sides of the frame, and spin around. Ideal fit, right? Ok, now push your arms out an extra half inch (like spacers do) and spin again. You're gunna touch the frame at all heights.
Same is true with the spacers. SO, you might rub different parts of the fender well based on your height setting, but you will always rub.
The question is, are you comfortable with that?
With 20mm spacers and stock non-staggered 21" Turbines, I rub at anything past 1/2 turn of the wheel. The crappy thing about that is that I rub when making sharp turns, at decent speeds. So I might wear down the wheel well material a bit.
murph335
Member
NON STAGGERED!! THANK YOU!! Trying to order black ones bc after i refinish the hub it shouldn't surface rust anymore.
Tonic750
Member
Anyone else had issues with the lugs getting sheared off? I've had plenty of cars with no issues before but this morning I just walked out to a sheared lug bolt on mine. I'm guessing the higher torque values of the Tesla are going to require some premium adapters. mine were the 20MM. Trying to decide if I should just remove them or find another brand? What's the highest quality ones out there now that aren't ridiculously expensive?
When you torqued up the lug nuts did you torque to Tesla175Nm or was it to what the BMW wheels are torque recommended setting.Here the side view on a set of aftermarket Forged wheels with a 14mm offset ... no spacers needed
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Hey guys hope to get some help. Long story short I purchased after market wheels and put on 19s all around but with 30mm offset. My fault for not checking. Just found out OEM is 40mm. I'm getting rubbing only on reverse and turning. To combat this I figured spacers is the way to go.
Being the offset is 30mm and I like the way I've seen the OEM 21s posted here with 25mm/20mm spacers would that mean I need to get 35mm/30mm because of my 30mm offset?
Being the offset is 30mm and I like the way I've seen the OEM 21s posted here with 25mm/20mm spacers would that mean I need to get 35mm/30mm because of my 30mm offset?
Hmm so maybe spacers won't help then? What's causing the rubbing for me, going from 8.0" width to 8.5" width or going from 40mm offset to 30mm?
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