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DJVoorhees

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Jun 16, 2019
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I would say that Tesla needs to get the Cyber Truck out before HM releases their EV Hummer, the specs on the Hummer are insane and it's not bad looking either. GM says fall of 2021 for the 3 motor variant.
 

DJVoorhees

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Jun 16, 2019
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They are way ahead of both of them. Tesla will be ready for selling vehicles in under a year from now. The others won't. They don't need to hype the cybertruck with new information until they are ready to have final configurations. With likely new model s and x details coming in the next week or so we won't need cybertruck hype for a few months.


GM's premium Hummer EV is going to be released fall of 2021 according to their website, and GM can actually make that date - unlike Tesla. If GM gets it out before Tesla, they will feel it.
 
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TMThree

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Mar 28, 2019
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I hope you’re right. But, my guess is that they’ve discovered that, like building semis, building trucks is a little more difficult than building cars.

The semi needs a lot more work than the truck. Its got a lot more battery, charging infrastructure requirements are massively different. And last I read, it was delayed due to battery availability.

The CT by comparison is just a different body shell with the standard powertrain they use on all their other vehicles. The only big difference is the frame/exterior.
 
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I think with all the recent buzz with massive battery breakthroughs, it will be a while before we get an update. Not to mention Elon won't release an update until the US changes the laws on side view cameras in lieu of mirrors.
 
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themorey

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In addition to Fremont limited production of 4680 cells, it sounds like Panasonic has also started development of 4680:

(Panasonic President) Tsuga talked everything Tesla, but arguably the most important exchange was related to 4680 battery cells. He officially confirmed that Panasonic is already developing the Tesla-designed cells. Tsuga shared via Teslarati:

“We have begun development of a new automotive battery, the 4680, for Tesla in the United States. The electrode structure is difficult because of its high capacity. The electrode structure is difficult because of its large capacity. We will make prototypes in Japan and establish a manufacturing method. High reliability is one of our strengths. There is no concern that Tesla will become a competitor (although Tesla is promoting in-house production of the battery).”

https://insideevs.com/news/464582/tesla-4680-battery-cell-production-panasonic/#:~:text=Well%2C%20that%20was%20certainly%20fast,produced%20and%20put%20into%20cars

There was also talk of LG Chem producing 4680 cells.
 

Hovscorpion1

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May 13, 2018
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I think with all the recent buzz with massive battery breakthroughs, it will be a while before we get an update. Not to mention Elon won't release an update until the US changes the laws on side view cameras in lieu of mirrors.

For the US, manufacturers are required by law to ship cars with mirrors, however it is not illegal for owners to remove the mirrors. It’s not illegal to have no mirrors. Only that your supposed to have them when taking delivery.
 
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rhumbliner

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For the US, manufacturers are required by law to ship cars with mirrors, however it is not illegal for owners to remove the mirrors. It’s not illegal to have no mirrors. Only that your supposed to have them when taking delivery.

The real question is whether or not your insurance company would continue to insure your car (especially for liability) if you remove the mirrors.
 

Hovscorpion1

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May 13, 2018
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The real question is whether or not your insurance company would continue to insure your car (especially for liability) if you remove the mirrors.

Once you take delivery and drive off, insurance companies have no knowledge of what you do to your car until you get into an accident. I can remove my mirrors on my my Model X and my insurance company would have no idea. They have no visible knowledge of what you vehicle looks like outside the VIN.
 

BayAreaCelt

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Oct 15, 2019
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Seems like other manufacturers are putting out more information - Ford with their F150 which is still over a year away (sounds like the cybertruck will be as late as them as well..) Rivian of course.. already testing on the roads all over the world and selling in Summer. I dont see a configurator even for the CT.
 

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