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Blog Musk Says FSD Beta is ‘Not Great’

May 19, 2017
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Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk said its latest beta version of its Full Self Driving software is “not great.”



Musk was replying to a video praising the new self-driving software. Musk said Tesla employees have urgency to improve the system.



“FSD Beta 9.2 is actually not great imo, but Autopilot/AI team is rallying to improve as fast as possible,” he tweeted. “We’re trying to have a single stack for both highway & city streets, but it requires massive NN retraining.”




FSD Beta 9.2 is actually not great imo, but Autopilot/AI team is rallying to improve as fast as possible. We’re trying to have a single stack for both highway & city streets, but it requires massive NN retraining.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 23, 2021




Tesla sells FSD for $10,000 or a $199 per month subscription. The beta version of the FSD software has only been rolled out to small number of owners and employees to...

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CapeOne

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I think this may have been more Musk's way of criticizing the Ford BlueCruise system i.e., FSD beta "isn't great" which means Ford BlueCruise must really suck.
 

DarkandStormy

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drtimhill

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I think this may have been more Musk's way of criticizing the Ford BlueCruise system i.e., FSD beta "isn't great" which means Ford BlueCruise must really suck.
Watch the Munro test drive. All BlueCruise did was stay in lane on a freeway and follow the car in front. That's it .. nothing else. It also disengaged when the car took a curve (on the freeway!). No auto lane change, not even lane change assist. No navigation tie-in at all. Sandy was pretty blunt about it.

As others noted, what Elon was saying (I think) is "Look, right now FSD isnt anywhere close to what we plan on delivering, and yet its still Muro thinks even in this early beta state ints still way ahead of Ford". Of course, the press are having a field day, but of this is the same press that swallowed all the "Tesla building a robot" stuff.
 

Dan D.

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Watch the Munro test drive. All BlueCruise did was stay in lane on a freeway and follow the car in front. That's it .. nothing else. It also disengaged when the car took a curve (on the freeway!). No auto lane change, not even lane change assist. No navigation tie-in at all. Sandy was pretty blunt about it.

As others noted, what Elon was saying (I think) is "Look, right now FSD isnt anywhere close to what we plan on delivering, and yet its still Muro thinks even in this early beta state ints still way ahead of Ford". Of course, the press are having a field day, but of this is the same press that swallowed all the "Tesla building a robot" stuff.
That BlueCruise video looked fairly lame, for the reasons you listed. Compared to the MobilEye, AutoX videos it's very basic, and practically useless. It's too bad none of the major automakers in North America yet have a Level 2 system that matches the Level 4 systems of those companies. Even if Level 2 has the problem of distracted driver, and those Level 4 systems are still in R&D, the commercially available systems here just aren't as good.
 

Mardak

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With 9.3 skipped last week and 10.0 pushed to next week, I wonder why Tesla decided to keep FSD beta on "not great" 9.2 for 4 weeks instead of following the original 2-week schedule?
 

USCGDAV

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Well that's the opposite of what Elon had texted about the beta. He made is sound like it was just the bomb and now he's saying it's not great.
I counseled him and we cleared it all up. He was talking about sushi at the time. Big misunderstanding.
 

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