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Blog Musk Says Next FSD Release Will Be 'Special'

Discussion in 'Autopilot & Autonomous/FSD' started by TMC Staff, Nov 20, 2020 at 8:51 AM.

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    An updated version of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving software is set to release with “fundamental improvements,” Chief Executive Elon Musk said on Twitter. In fact, Musk called the release “special” and that it will bring about “new areas of functionality.” The automaker released a beta version of its Full Self-Driving software last month which was met with...
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    Nice but when will the rest of us get it?
     
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    Yes the new FSD will be amazing but it has been done at the cost of downgrading the standard auto driving on every new car. I had a 2016 Model S for 4 years and its standard Autopilot had autopark, horizontal and vertical, lane change and garage parking none of which is on the new Model 3 without paying £6000 for them to switch it on. Other irritations like a tailgate that does not even lift the weight of the trunk and loss of remote closing from inside the car. So no wonder they have plenty cash for developing better FSD, they have stripped the rest of the car to the bone.
     
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    My thoughts: the competition is done for :p
     
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    Daniel in SD Well-Known Member

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    What competition? No one else thinks beta FSD is a good idea as a consumer product.
     
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    Daniel in SD Well-Known Member

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    Who else thinks it's a good idea?
    I don't think it's a good idea. You all should disagree with this post (it's an opinion!) not the last one. :p
     
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    Mobileye - is all about providing a consumer product.
     
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    Do they plan to release beta FSD while it still requires human supervision?
     
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    Bladerskb Senior Software Engineer

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    There's always a hyperbole with this guy and his fanbase just lap it up.
     
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    If they had something as good as Tesla's they would all think so.

    They would probably call it driver assistance (which is what current Tesla FSD beta is), though.
     
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    Tesla has the following worldwide features that no other company has deployed (to my knowledge):

    Traffic light response
    Stop sign response
    Route-based automatic lane changing
    Automatic interchange routing
    Automatic highway exiting
    Large truck lane deviation

    Not only have they deployed these features, but Tesla's "basic" features (TACC / Autosteer) are currently way better than the any of the competition.
     
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    NIO's NOP and Nissan Propilot 2.0

    NIO Navigate on Pilot


    BMW's Driving Assistant Pro's November Software Update

    ???
     
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    #15 powertoold, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:38 PM
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    NOP hasn't been deployed yet. Please link an article:

    At the recent 2020 Beijing International Auto Show, NIO unveiled Navigate on Pilot (NOP) pilot assistance feature, which will be pushed to customers as soon as mid-October.
    With launch of NOP, is NIO better positioned to handle competition from Tesla?

    Again, I check often. Not yet deployed.

    Edit: nevermind, I found it. It seems like NIO released NOP within the last month:

    Additionally, following the release of the NIO OS 2.7.0 via firmware-over-the-air (FOTA) upgrade in October 2020, our users have been able to enjoy the Navigate on Pilot (NoP) feature of NIO Pilot on highways and urban expressways in China.

    NIO Inc. Reports Unaudited Third Quarter 2020 Financial Results

    Automatic lane changing not deployed either. Announced in 2019, haven't seen anything new on this.



    In this video, there's no automatic lane change. The driver changes lanes himself, lol?
     
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    Neither are for city driving.

    Tesla FSD (or what I call City NOA) would be the first of its kind for any OEM.
     
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    The day will soon come where Tesla's FSD makes superhuman maneuvers to avoid an accident (or maybe cause one) lol

    I'm excited to see superhuman capabilities in the near future. Once FSD is good enough, it should be able to avoid accidents that we can't react to because of our limited vision.
     
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    It is deployed. Its confirmation feature acts the same as Tesla's request for hand on the wheel when changing lanes.
    Because propilot 2 is hands free, you hit a button to confirm rather than hold/wiggle the steering wheel.
     
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    aronth5 Long Time Follower

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    There is a difference between thinking FSD is a good idea as a consumer product and believing you can deliver it successfully.
     
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    Below accounts for 85% of disengagements IMO. If Tesla can fix these "minor" issues, then it'll be "special" for sure:

    1. Being in turn lane when not turning
    2. Turning right but not on the outermost lane / near curb
    3. Major ping ponging / steering within lanes
    4. Changing lanes to follow route too late
    5. Creeping after stop sign (and in general) needs to be more consistent and predictable (in term of speed)
     

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