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Blog Musk Says Tesla Will Sell Software, Powertrains, Batteries to Other Automakers

Discussion in 'Tesla, Inc.' started by TMC Staff, Jul 29, 2020.

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    Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk said Tuesday on Twitter that the company is keen to help other automakers with their challenges developing more sustainable vehicles. “Tesla is open to licensing software and supplying powertrains and batteries,” Musk said on Twitter. “We’re just trying to accelerate sustainable energy, not crush competitors!” Musk has previously said that the...
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    #2 Brando, Jul 29, 2020
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    Tesla Software, as far as I know, Tesla does not sell.

    Writer may be confusing Tesla patents with Tesla software.
    All Our Patent Are Belong To You

    Elon's other concern to supplying OEMs was the OEMs always seem to want special modifications. This would be a big distraction requiring more engineering & modified manufacturing.
     
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    Elon was specifically asked with respect to licensing software, "Software as in autopilot?"
    To which he replied, "Sure".
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1288265584178798592

    I'd take it with a grain of salt, though. Who is currently using Tesla patents after that announcement six years ago?
     
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    Love to see a spread sheet that shows these one word twitter responses. It would be interesting to see what if any came true and how long it has taken the company to complete. These Yes, Sure, Probably, Agree, I can go on, always makes it in the headlines but where is the follow through. I personally think Tesla as a company is still being developed. Yes, we all know the idea, (Sustainable transportation) but how they get there is evolving every day with new idea. The jab, the duck, the punch, that amazing can do Tesla team is what builds excitement. We want to know more so I understand how we hang on to some of these simple responses.
     
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    I think if they really want to encourage electric vehicles from other manufacturers, the first thing they could do is come out with a very cost effective model for licensing SuperCharging to other manufacturers. If a company like Rivian were able to have a Tesla style plug and be able to plug in at a Supercharger, IMO it would be a game changer. It would also mean that we'd need a LOT more Superchargers.
     
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    I want to see Tesla license their display/console to BMW. Whenever I drive my wife's X1 I want to punch the useless nav system.
     
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    If he's supplying powertrains, I'd like the .dbc to control said powertrains.
     
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    It could be GREAT if Tesla licensed their Supercharger network to VW or BMW or Mercedes and have them pay for extensive expansion of the Supercharger network which would be powered by Tesla Solar and Powerpacks.
     
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    I will be surprised if anyone takes him up on that.
     
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    Didn't Elon say along time ago that Tesla was open to licensing the Supercharger network as long as the other partner pays for their share of the costs. I was under the impression no one took them up the offer.

    I'm assuming this latest "offer" will amount to about the same thing.

    My guess is Tesla wants to get paid a lot more than what others are willing to pay.
     
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    There is one EV maker (or maker wannabe) that I bet Elon won't sell anything to, and that is...

    Rivian.
     
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    What will the news onTwitter from Elon Musk do to the speculative fever over investing in Tesla. I sense trouble is around the corner if he goes that route. Has he received a family threat? This doesn't make sense. Something may have happened very recently that we are unaware of.
     
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    why is that?

    Rivian would benefit from going through the process to use the supercharger network... considering it's not so much a truck as an adventure mobile.
     
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    Batteries? I wouldn't think so. For one thing Tesla is going to continuing growing so fast that they will be hard pressed to keep up with in house demand let alone third parties. How would they split the baby if third party demand plus in house demand exceeds capacity?
    For another thing Li-ion cells for this purpose contain hard won (years of testing and development) features and capabilities that currently give Tesla big performance and cost advantages. Battery cell development is a slow roll requiring years of development and testing to vet changes to materials and chemistry. Let's see what they say on "battery day".

    Drive trains with proprietary software controlling the pulse code modulated inverters? Not likely IMO.
     
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    sad, don't show documents of suit.

    read Rivian law suit
    Read the court filing: Tesla sues Rivian, says company stole talent, trade secrets

    Note: Taking apart competitors cars is NOT new. In fact, companies have business plans to take apart cars and sell reports.
    See Sandy Munro - leandesigns.com or munrolive.com

    Tesla supplied complete drive systems for Toyota RAV4 electric AND SMART car AND Mercedes B class electric.

    Tesla has tried to encourage other OEMs to join the SuperCharger network. Seems to me from the very beginning. Having partners can often be helpful, right? see Panasonic partner ship.
     
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    It's sad that Supercharger is one of the patents that others could use but no one has even adopted that yet.

    My understanding is: Tesla won't sue if you use their patents. The public can easily access patents online freely.

    However, there are secrets that Tesla does not put them up on the patent website for everyone to see and those secrets are not free.

    Tesla software such as Autopilot/FSD... are not displayed on the public patent website but other companies can now pay Tesla to use them.
     

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