With a clear white line visible in the latest pics, it seems odd for the car to track off the road--perhaps driver only had TACC on or had full AP and inadvertantly disengaged AutoSteer. The vehicle logs will tell the story.
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With a clear white line visible in the latest pics, it seems odd for the car to track off the road--perhaps driver only had TACC on or had full AP and inadvertantly disengaged AutoSteer. The vehicle logs will tell the story.
Surely he can call Tesla himself?
Based on those photos, the "stakes" referred to in the OP are about two feet off the edge of the pave roadway. They are not "on the road". That phrase of course can be interpreted in a variety of ways.Just got more photos from the driver. The car was in autopilot at speed between 56-60, the car drove off the road hit the guard rail wood posts. I questioned him how can AP drove off the road himself, he said he also want to find out. Photo attached the wood posts he hit
They should just invite Elon to the group. 14m45sSurely he can call Tesla himself?I woke up today saw he managed to get internet to ask people in the Wechat group to call tesla for assistant.
Just got more photos from the driver. The car was in autopilot at speed between 56-60, the car drove off the road hit the guard rail wood posts. I questioned him how can AP drove off the road himself, he said he also want to find out. Photo attached the wood posts he hit
But unfortunately it appears that Tesla needs to do exactly that. I have reluctantly reached the same conclusion in recent days; Tesla needs to have formal training program on AP for every customer who buys a car, new or CPO, with AP, and this program should also be open to anyone else who wants to take it, because there will be owners who bought their Tesla used from a third party, spouses of owners, family members of owners.I think all Tesla could do about this would be to create a training and certification program for AP with a sign off that you had received the training, understood the limitations and were responsible for the operation of the vehicle at all times. No certification, no autopilot.
They shouldn't have to do this...
But unfortunately it appears that Tesla needs to do exactly that. I have reluctantly reached the same conclusion in recent days; Tesla needs to have formal training program on AP for every customer who buys a car, new or CPO, with AP, and this program should also be open to anyone else who wants to take it, because there will be owners who bought their Tesla used from a third party, spouses of owners, family members of owners.
Too many people are using AP in situations that it is not designed for and/or they are not paying close enough attention to the road while using AP. As the number of Teslas sold with AP increases dramatically this year, and the next, and the next, there are going to be more and more people doing stupid things on AP, and more bad press.
If they are using wechat, there is a good possibility the driver is Chinese. They may lack the English language skills to sufficiently explain what is going on to a telephone operator, especially when already under stress of the accident.
There seems to be quite a rapid succession of reports of drivers using AP in ways that the software/hardware is not capable enough for to handle.
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that Tesla should not allow AP use on non-divided highways, period. For every accident we see, the response is always the same victim blaming: don't use AP on non-divided highways. And yet, some people will always do what the car allows them to do, and not what is buried in the owners manual. In fact, Tesla restricts AutoSteer speed on these roads. That's an explicit signal to the driver that Tesla thinks the road is OK for AP use as long as the speed is reduced. Tesla knows exactly which roads are not suitable for AP, and yet they continue to allow AP use despite telling customers not to use it.
I suspect they are trying to have their cake and eat it too: using customers a guinea pigs to beta test AP on normal roads, gathering copious amounts of data, but trying don't want the liability for the inevitable crashes. That's negligence.