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My prediction on Model 3/Tesla

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by Hitman007, Oct 28, 2017.

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    Agree: Tired of the $100,000 Car
     
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    Why isn't the OP writing on Seekingalpha instead? :)
     
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    JRP3 Hyperactive Member

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    Already hedging your bet? You started this thread in October, so if BK hits in Nov 2018 you lose.
     
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    "Your" the one who started this thread. "Your" jumping off "you're" own thread? "Your" priceless. "Sea" you in a year, or not. ;)
     
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  6. Canuck

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    Now that's a good one especially since you did not even know who he was before I cited him. You know that as well as me so let's drop the BS games. You're not fooling anyone with this comment. It only shows how smug you can be to act like you knew him. As to your comment about him being an "idiot" with a "terrible track record" -- here's FACTS about his bankruptcy test:

    From about 1985 onwards, the Z-scores gained wide acceptance by auditors, management accountants, courts, and database systems used for loan evaluation (Eidleman). The formula's approach has been used in a variety of contexts and countries, although it was designed originally for publicly held manufacturing companies with assets of more than $1 million. Later variations by Altman were designed to be applicable to privately held companies (the Altman Z'-Score) and non-manufacturing companies (the Altman Z"-Score).

    His test is widely accepted by auditors, management accountants, financial institutions and even the courts! But his test is an "idiot" test when it comes to @Hitman007 Nostradamus.

    Again, you're lying to us -- and you again look foolish when you expect us to believe such BS. You're leaving this thread because you can't answer even one of my arguments with any facts, except to say I'm a "misguided soul" and Altman is an "idiot". Now there's some convincing arguments in reply to my facts. :rolleyes:

    We also know that if personal attacks were the issue, you wouldn't have started this thread with one in the very first sentence:

    We also know two more facts:

    1. Tesla will be solvent one year from now; and
    2. You won't be back to this thread in one year's time.
     
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    I'm sensing someone who played too much Xbox when he was younger, thinks he's a DJ when all he has is an iPod w/a playlist...or both, rolled into one terrible person.
     
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    Hitman must be the ghost of Edward R. Murrow.
     
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  9. Veritas1980

    Veritas1980 Electric Viking

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    So... it is exactly one year later, would you like to give us cheerleaders an update on the impending doom of Tesla due to the Model 3 production?
     
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    Well done Veritas. I tried to upvote your post but I haven't figured out how to do it yet.
     
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    It might be hard to post an update on how Tesla went under when using a Nokia flip-phone outside the boarded up building that used to be Borders... o_O
     
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    #132 MXWing, Oct 29, 2018
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    Couple days early but

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    Does nostradumazz have any predictions for 2019?
     
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  13. ohmman

    ohmman Plaid-ish Moderator

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    One of the things I love about the written record is that it's always there for reference. Being wrong isn't a problem, so long as ownership is taken and future posts reflect the lesson learned. Without that, it'll be hard to give any validity to future claims.
     
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    Does anyone know when the bankruptcy liquidation sale is? I'd like try and pick up a Model X for cheap :p
     
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    voip-ninja Give me some sugar baby

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    #135 voip-ninja, Oct 29, 2018
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    I agree... everyone is entitled to their opinions but they need to own them.

    OP was last signed in less than 48 hours ago and I suspect has a subscription to this thread.

    I'm sure he would be on here crowing if Tesla had imploded, so he should be on here eating some crow considering the quarter Tesla just produced that was based largely on the success of the Model 3 launch.
     
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  16. StellarRat

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    I predict that his prediction is wrong.
     
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  17. MXWing

    MXWing Well-Known Member

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    and me waiting on @Hitman007 's response and 2019 predictions.

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  18. gambit48

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    A certain POTUS and his enablers would beg to differ.
     
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  19. StellarRat

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    I can recite all the "predictions" that have been made about Tesla and the Model 3. Each, in turn, has been proven wrong then a new one invented by people that simply do not want Tesla to succeed. Fortunately, there are plenty of people (some with a lot of money) that are in Tesla's corner to do everything possible to make sure they do succeed. I'd be right here saying Tesla was dead if the Model 3 had turned out to be a POS, but that certainly is not the case.

    Here they are:

    No one wants electric vehicles - Wrong
    Tesla won't make it because it's impossible to start a new car company in this day and age - Wrong
    Since you can't go anywhere in an EV the market is tiny and Tesla will never be a large company - Wrong
    Tesla can't survive without government support - Wrong
    The Model 3 will never be built because it's impossible to make a decent/profitable EV for less than a Model S. - Wrong
    The Model 3 is just vaporware, Tesla won't ever build them - Wrong
    The Model 3 will bankrupt Tesla (thanks Hitman007) - Wrong
    Everyone is cancelling their Model 3 reservations because they're tired of waiting - Wrong
    Tesla will never be able to build Model 3's fast enough to survive - Wrong
    Most of the Model 3's are defective coming off the line and need to be fixed - Wrong
    Tesla will run out of cash before they make a profit on the Model 3 - Wrong

    The latest one:
    Tesla will never be able to build the base Model 3 because the margin will be too low - We'll see about that.
     
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  20. Kichwas

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    I have mixed feelings on this idea that the written record forcing you to own your opinions is a good idea.

    Historically one of the best ways to change a view was the debated argument followed by a cooling off period. You walked away and mulledover what was said and then you had the ability to escape yourself if you realized you were wrong.

    But also everyone else soon forgot a lot of the details of different speakers so you didn’t get held down and dragged out for whatever you might have said and your changing stance was more readily accepted by both yourself and others.

    So I am more of the opinion that’s it’s only good to dig up someone’s past statements if they try to double down on them.

    But I worry just as much that people double down because their own past is as visible to them as it is to others...

    It was just a lot easier to change my own mind about things back when I could let my brain forget some if how stuck in a stance I once was...

    Just think about how important “forgetting” some things is for your own sanity, and well, also for larger society...
     
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