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My reasons behind choosing a M3
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Totally agree, sounds so logic too. A closed cell, already filled with lots of speakers ... makes sense
Rustybkts
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I have found that most stealerships are snobby and the way I was treated a year ago at Birmingham a dose of fresh air.
The amount of money I spent just on servicing my BM M3 was astonishing and worse when a "bad connection" stopped the SMG gearbox from selecting.
Despite many requests when picking the car up, I never found out where the fault lay and even after passing a very large bag of silver over, was sent on my way and a mile down the road a piece of plastic ducting fell off to be driven over!
A small indy was used afterwards who always kept the parts replaced.
So happy now that my one year old car has yet to see the inside of any dealer "just to keep the warranty". Thank you Elon.
curmudgeon
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Glan gluaisne
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Drew57
Active ember
This initial com[parison by a Polestar owner includes his preference for Harman Kardon over Tesla Premium sound in the Long Range.
I don't believe it's bias when he comments several times on the higher levels of external noise in the Model 3, if we are all being honest, it's a definite failing (just road noise in mine, no issues with wind even when driving fast).
Glan gluaisne
Active Member
I get a fair bit of wind noise at anything over about 50mph. The SC have tried adjusting the glass, but have said that it's as good as they can get it.
I suspect it's the frequency range of the noise that messes with the sound system more than anything else. The noise frequency range in the Tesla seems to be right around the main frequencies of speech and music. Be interesting to see a frequency domain plot of the background noise, to see if this is the case.
I suspect it's the frequency range of the noise that messes with the sound system more than anything else. The noise frequency range in the Tesla seems to be right around the main frequencies of speech and music. Be interesting to see a frequency domain plot of the background noise, to see if this is the case.
This would seem to be borne out by comparative smartphone dB meter tests which suggest that the absolute peak of the M3 and P2 is very similar, but says nothing about whether those peaks are in the 'presence' region or not.
Active is all well and good but there's plenty they can do to keep the noise down before reverting to technology. Just better insulation, panel fit, suspension isolation etc which all have other positive properties than just noise deadening. There are plenty of suggestions for extra sealing strips and lining the doors with some acoustic matting, people have also suggested the boot area is a great place to add some sound deadening material to improve things.
HenryT
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It will be interesting to see if the MIC cars fare any better, given the prospect of 'within tolerance' being at a more acceptable level.
Life before spreadsheets: spent my days fishing
Life after spreadsheets: I spend my days updating spreadsheets
...... And avoiding phishing
Drew57
Active ember
Yes, same here with acoustic foam (many months ago) but my observations earlier in this thread still stand.
Drew57
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Drew57
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In the sense of tightening bass in the subwoofer region, yes. However, as the driving position is adjacent to one front arch and close to the other, it's these that have the most negative impact at higher speeds.
Having said this, as I'm retired & most journeys over the past year have been local, speed has been low & therefore intrusion from road noise has not spoiled enjoyment of the sound system too often.
MrBadger
Badger out
Do you think that will moult fibres like the old sound sound deadening use to do?
I may have a non car use for some sound deadening to prevent resonance on my indoor bike and its likely to cause major issues if it sheds anything.
Drew57
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@VanillaAir_UK - it's not fibrous, more like foam rubber (but that could perish at some point in the distant future I suppose, probably long after I've sold the car)
I get the feeling I have been lucky with the soundproofing in my car. Apart from an intermittent dashboard rattle I don't find it too bad. I'm always comparing it to my last car on here I know but compared to that it's actually OK. Given one was a luxury huge Mercedes estate and this is a small performance saloon the difference between the two isn't as bad. I would expect a car like mine to have a bit of noise intrusion.
