whitex
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Is there a friend of family member you could send to assess the situation and send you a report (with pictures, or even video conference with them to see yourself)? Even if you had to pay for plane ticket to send them there.
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The article seemed to imply the fire started in the basement. I imagine it’s conceivable it could have been the charging circuit the Tesla was running off of. A faulty breaker on that circuit could be a causative factor. All speculation.
Fortunately it doesn’t look like there was considerable damage to the house.
Hope things get sorted out quickly Steve.
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We recently had a small electrical fire in our crawl space. Luckily, we smelled the smoke, and I managed to crawl under the house with a fire extinguisher and get it out before there was any real damage.. We had noticed the lights out in a room, and I'd flipped the breaker back (and had it trip again) just before the fire.
In my case, I initially suspected something about the Tesla outlet, as did the fire dept after they arrived, as it was the only recent electrical work. It turns out what happened was that when the house was built (25 years ago), one of the wires in the crawl space was stapled through the insulation. Eventually over the years, the staple rusted enough to short out the wires. This caused a spark which ignited some lint from a loose dryer vent. The lint then ignited the vapor barrier covering the dirt floor of the crawl space, and we had a nice little fire going.
If we hadn't been home, I can imagine that my Tesla would have somehow been blamed. I'm just really lucky that I was there.
I have a lot of sympathy for the original poster. I hope things are not as bad as they seem. Best of luck!
In my case, I initially suspected something about the Tesla outlet, as did the fire dept after they arrived, as it was the only recent electrical work. It turns out what happened was that when the house was built (25 years ago), one of the wires in the crawl space was stapled through the insulation. Eventually over the years, the staple rusted enough to short out the wires. This caused a spark which ignited some lint from a loose dryer vent. The lint then ignited the vapor barrier covering the dirt floor of the crawl space, and we had a nice little fire going.
If we hadn't been home, I can imagine that my Tesla would have somehow been blamed. I'm just really lucky that I was there.
I have a lot of sympathy for the original poster. I hope things are not as bad as they seem. Best of luck!
Nobody is allowed in the house, by order of the fire department. The car was towed before anyone thought to take photos. My friend got some pics through the house windows and to me, the damage seems to be worse in the room with the fuse box. But still no real info. The officer I first spoke to indicated both my car and house were completely destroyed. But since, the info that has trickled in doesn't seem to support that. But, of course, I am not an expert. The majority of the damage beyond that room seems to be from smoke. Can't that just be cleaned? Anyway, I continue to see amazing castles but with a constant pit in my stomach.
We are about half an hour away in Vernon. If it would help we can go for a Sunday drive and take pictures of the house or whatever.
Not to be the bearer of worse news, but generally speaking house fires have more damage from water than fire or smoke (due to extinguishing the fire with water). We just had one in our neighborhood as a reminder of this sad reality of life.
It depends, smoke destroys almost everything. A friend of ours had a house fire and the smoke damage was so bad that the insurance company stripped the house to the studs on the inside, sprayed the framing with special smoke remediation stuff, and then rebuilt the interior of the house.
More than half of their possessions inside the house couldn't get the smoke removed from them. (The smoke even made it into closed liquor bottles making it undrinkable.)
My only hope for you is that your fire was smaller with less smoke, and that it can be easily cleaned up.
Astraviel
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Tes La Ferrari
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Sorry to hear about the fire. Hopefully the insurance company is reasonable to deal with.
Perhaps thinking about your next Tesla purchase can help take your mind off this terrible situation.
Perhaps thinking about your next Tesla purchase can help take your mind off this terrible situation.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
That's one I haven't heard before. The whole things a shame so I can't say it's a shame the liquor was spoiled, it's kind of anticlimactic/irrelevant vs the big picture. Still it gets the point across that even things I'd not expect to be contaminated can be.
Hello everyone. First, thank you so much for the well wishes, advice and even offer to help. I really appreciate it.
We're back in town now. The moment we got to the home, the restoration specialist arrived and gave my wife and I some respirators so we could view the home. It is much worse than i realized. Only one room was gutted by fire. Heat so intense that you can't identify even metal things (oddly enough, the only things that are recognizable are paper. Not sure how that works). That is a downstairs storage room that has the electrical panel, my home server and related internet equipment (router, modern, etc). That is where the fire started. The cause, I'm told, is impossible to determine with any true accuracy, but their best guess is that it started at the UPS (battery backup for the server and various network devices).
The fire wasn't actually active when the fire department attended and water wasn't required. They tell me it was likely burning for hours or even days prior to the call. The one room erupted into a very hot blaze, but likely snuffed itself out due to lack of oxygen. But then it smouldered. The resulting smoke damage is incredible. Devastating, really.
Beyond that room, there is some heat damage in adjacent rooms, but the only other major fire damage was in the garage. The garage shares about a foot of the bottom wall with the ceiling of the previously described room. So it is adjacent, but offset by a floor. There's a conduit joining the two rooms that I think was a rough-in for a built-in vacuum. They say the fire went through that and ignited cardboard that was in the garage. The rear of the Tesla was severely damaged, blowing out the rear hatch window.
The car insurance company advised me that it is not economical to repair, but otherwise I don't know its condition.
There is some dispute on how to value the claim with regards to the Tesla. I'm hoping to get some advice if someone - particularly someone from BC - can tell me exactly (precisely) what the "model" of my car is. That seems like a simple question, but it has important consequence. If someone in BC could please look at their ICBC insurance papers and tell me what they have under "model", I'd appreciate it. Particularly, I want to know if the model is simply "S" (this is what I think) or if the model is - for example in my case - "P85D" or "S P85D", etc. The reason is that they are arguing that my model no longer exists. I disagree and argue the model exists, just with different specifications/trim. The consequence is significant. The wording of the contract is on my side, exempt for the interpretation of the word "model", which isn't defined.
We're back in town now. The moment we got to the home, the restoration specialist arrived and gave my wife and I some respirators so we could view the home. It is much worse than i realized. Only one room was gutted by fire. Heat so intense that you can't identify even metal things (oddly enough, the only things that are recognizable are paper. Not sure how that works). That is a downstairs storage room that has the electrical panel, my home server and related internet equipment (router, modern, etc). That is where the fire started. The cause, I'm told, is impossible to determine with any true accuracy, but their best guess is that it started at the UPS (battery backup for the server and various network devices).
The fire wasn't actually active when the fire department attended and water wasn't required. They tell me it was likely burning for hours or even days prior to the call. The one room erupted into a very hot blaze, but likely snuffed itself out due to lack of oxygen. But then it smouldered. The resulting smoke damage is incredible. Devastating, really.
Beyond that room, there is some heat damage in adjacent rooms, but the only other major fire damage was in the garage. The garage shares about a foot of the bottom wall with the ceiling of the previously described room. So it is adjacent, but offset by a floor. There's a conduit joining the two rooms that I think was a rough-in for a built-in vacuum. They say the fire went through that and ignited cardboard that was in the garage. The rear of the Tesla was severely damaged, blowing out the rear hatch window.
The car insurance company advised me that it is not economical to repair, but otherwise I don't know its condition.
There is some dispute on how to value the claim with regards to the Tesla. I'm hoping to get some advice if someone - particularly someone from BC - can tell me exactly (precisely) what the "model" of my car is. That seems like a simple question, but it has important consequence. If someone in BC could please look at their ICBC insurance papers and tell me what they have under "model", I'd appreciate it. Particularly, I want to know if the model is simply "S" (this is what I think) or if the model is - for example in my case - "P85D" or "S P85D", etc. The reason is that they are arguing that my model no longer exists. I disagree and argue the model exists, just with different specifications/trim. The consequence is significant. The wording of the contract is on my side, exempt for the interpretation of the word "model", which isn't defined.
Decibelle
Member
Sorry to hear about your loss!
I checked my insurance papers and under "Model" it only shows "S". No mentioning of the P or the D. On my transfer papers I received when buying the car it shows "S P85D", but these forms are filled out by the previous owner/dealer so I don't know if the insurance company (or ICBC) will accept that. Shouldn't be too difficult to ask the TESLA service centre to give you something that shows your full model number.
If you have the time, please keep us updated.
I checked my insurance papers and under "Model" it only shows "S". No mentioning of the P or the D. On my transfer papers I received when buying the car it shows "S P85D", but these forms are filled out by the previous owner/dealer so I don't know if the insurance company (or ICBC) will accept that. Shouldn't be too difficult to ask the TESLA service centre to give you something that shows your full model number.
If you have the time, please keep us updated.
f-stop
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LoveEV
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Tes La Ferrari
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Very sorry to hear of your loss, bcsteeve.
I would think regardless of the model / trim disagreement, the market value would still be the market value. Wouldn't they just look at what other equivalent P85D's are available for you to buy of similar options, year, mileage, and give you a payout value ?
The one question that you might want to ask them in your value negotiation process, is that your current Tesla has transferrable unlimited supercharging, and were you to buy a new one, you couldn't get that - so what value will they give you for that on your claim ?
Great, thanks for checking! That's what i expected, I just couldn't check my own as those papers are in the car and I'm not even sure where the car is.
That supports my argument and i should be able to get them to see reason. It would be silly for them to force it to court when the policy wording (that they write) is so clear and their own form acknowledges the model as being "S". Pretty rock solid case.
