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MY7 v. MY5 - 2nd row seat recline and trunk space

RandomNumber

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Jan 27, 2021
21
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NYC
I have a Model Y 7-seater on order. After looking online at a few videos of folks spending time in the MY7, I began to worry about the following re the 7-seater:
  1. Does the second row not recline as much as the MY 5-seater? If not, could that affect passengers’ comfort?
  2. Is there less foot space in the second row compared to the MY5? Is the space enough for long trips?
  3. How much less trunk space is there in the MY7 compared to the MY5?
  4. What is it like to sit in the third row? Who should ride in there?
  5. Would the drop at the trunk end of the car make camping uncomfortable?
I had a chance to compare the MY7 and MY5 at a Tesla showroom, here are my thoughts on the questions above:

1. Pushing the second row all the way back, with the third row up, I got two additional recline positions, just like in the MY5, so three setting in total. With the third row down, at first I was only able to recline one notch, but after going out and returning, the second position was possible, not sure if the second row seat was moved up a bit in the meantime.

Answer - you might have to fiddle, but it reclines like the 5 (note the different latches to make it recline in each vehicle).

2. There seems to me to be the same amount of foot space in the second row as the 5, it’s quite roomy for the feet and knees (I’m 5’11”). Good for long trips.

Answer - no worries.

3. When the third row is down, you lose about 1.5 inches in height where the third row is. The height to the start of the hatch is about 25.5 inches, compared to about 27 inches in the 5. The SA said that the 7 was wider inside at that point than the 5, I didn’t test it. I'd be interested to see total cargo volumes for MY7 third row down / second row up for both MY5 and 7, I don't think Tesla publishes that?

Answer - two sets of True “tower-type” hockey gear bags (barely) fit sideways on top of the folded 3rd row seats!

4. There seem to me to be four issues affecting the size of person appropriate for the third row - the hatch glass, the plastic padding on the hatch, knee length and foot space.

Answer - My inclination is to test to make sure anyone sitting in the third row cleared the hatch padding when they leaned forward (not sure if others have the same concern or would apply the same test, or whether the seat belt is enough protection not to worry?).

5. I like that the sub-trunk cover can be flipped to make it level with the third row. I also like that the strap on the cover works on both sides, a nice touch!

Answer - Camp Mode here we come!
 

Samyul

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Feb 18, 2021
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Irvine, CA
One other question I had was is it possible to remove the 3rd row? I doubt it would be easy, but I've seen people do some crazy things to their car. I wonder how much extra space you would get if you removed the 3rd row.
 

RandomNumber

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Jan 27, 2021
21
28
NYC
Interesting question! I expect it would look pretty similar to a MY5, although perhaps with a bit more internal width? If you take out the MY5 "forward" sub-trunk cover, I guess you're getting close to what you'd get if you removed the MY7 third row. But as the third row is really flat folded down, and as the second row space on the 7 and the 5 seems similar, I'm not sure you'd gain enough to make it worth it, but I might be missing something. See the discussion of the size of the forward sub-trunk here for comparison. -
 

mp0417

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Feb 9, 2021
15
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Bay Area
I was torn on whether or not to get the 7 seater. Ultimately I thought it seemed like a tight squeeze and decided to stick with the 5 seat configuration.
 

Samyul

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Feb 18, 2021
54
45
Irvine, CA
I was torn on whether or not to get the 7 seater. Ultimately I thought it seemed like a tight squeeze and decided to stick with the 5 seat configuration.
I placed an order on the 7 seater before even having the chance to check it out. I figured I could change it later. When it finally arrived at my local showroom, I checked it out and was pleasantly surprised. My head did touch the glass, but I would never sit back there. My kids are 8 and 6, so they're going to be out of their booster seats soon and still have plenty of years left to fit back there if we were ever in a pinch whether we're going somewhere with grandparents, cousins, or carpooling with other kids, etc.

My recommendation would be to check it out for yourself. I think the early negative reports were pretty off base and unfair. If you intend to use it everyday, you really should be getting a minivan. That's the bottom line.
 

NCC81701

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Feb 28, 2020
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San Diego
These seems like pretty common questions so I'll just hijack your post and put my answers there.

  1. Does the second row not recline as much as the MY 5-seater? If not, could that affect passengers’ comfort?
    1. I don't have a 5 seater to compare but I think it is the same (don't quote me on this)
  2. Is there less foot space in the second row compared to the MY5? Is the space enough for long trips?
    1. Depends, 2nd and 3rd row shares leg room. When you are not using the 3rd row, you can push 2nd row all the way back and it should be the same leg room between 5 and 7 seater. When you are using the 3rd row, you will need to move the 2nd row forward so the ppl sitting in the 3rd row will have non-zero leg room. So how much leg room 2nd and 3rd row gets is all a function of how tall everyone is. If peeps in the 1st row are short, then there are more space for 2nd and 3rd row to share. After that it depends on how peeps in 2nd and 3rd row want to split the leg room they have.
  3. How much less trunk space is there in the MY7 compared to the MY5?
    1. You only lose the shallow sub trunk space under the 3rd row or the front sub trunk in a 5 seater. With seats folded down you have the same amount of space above the floor and you still have the same super deep sub trunk at the very back. Oh and I suppose you lose a bit of height, but that'll probably only matter on very edge cases.
  4. What is it like to sit in the third row? Who should ride in there?
    1. I'm the tallest in my family at 5',7" and I can have a fist above my head in the 3rd row. My friend that's 6'1" does not fit in the 3rd row. Your head is probably going to touch glass if you are 5'11"+. Again some of this depends on how much you can shift the 2nd row forward to give the guy in the 3rd row space. Unless everyone is above 6' you can probably play some musical chair to stuff everyone in the car.
  5. Would the drop at the trunk end of the car make camping uncomfortable?
    1. Just flip the floor panel, it will be a level smooth trunk space all the way up to ~3 inches before the lip of the trunk door
 

RandomNumber

Member
Jan 27, 2021
21
28
NYC
These seems like pretty common questions so I'll just hijack your post and put my answers there.

Thanks, NCC, that's helpful. Your post makes me think a bit more about trunk space.

I guess the MY5 2nd row can't be slid forward, but the MY7 2nd row can (to accommodate the 3rd row passengers). So that means that if you had 3-5 passengers (using the second row for people but not the third), you could have the second row folks slide forward a bit (especially if they have shorter legs), possibly giving you even more trunk space than you would otherwise have without the third row in the car!

Of course with only two (non-young-child) passengers, both the MY5 and MY7 can flip the (third and) second row down getting to the promised 68 cubic feet / 1925 litres.
 

Richbot

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Oct 16, 2020
237
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STL
I think Model Y's 2nd row is actually slightly *roomier* than Model X's, at least from a foot and leg room perspective, because of that huge space under the front seats.

Sitting behind my 5'11' driver's seating position in a 5-seater Y, I could stretch out in the 2nd row like I was on a business jet, it was spectacular. I can't imagine sliding the 2nd row forward 3-4" would make it so much worse as to be uncomfortable when using the 3rd row, but, I really need to check one out in person.

For what it's worth, it's also necessary to slide the 2nd row all the way forward to accomodate a fully grown human in the 3rd row of Model X 7seater. X has no 3rd row headroom issues at least not for average size adult males like me, but if your primary use case for the 3rd row is occasional and kids below 5' tall I don't see any downside.
 

btpdx

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Apr 16, 2020
13
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Portland
One other question I had was is it possible to remove the 3rd row? I doubt it would be easy, but I've seen people do some crazy things to their car. I wonder how much extra space you would get if you removed the 3rd row.
Wouldn’t recommend it since the 3rd row is also wired in for usb and is heated (currently shown via the app only and not the touch screen)
 

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