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Navigation System Needs Service

trils0n

2013 P85
Feb 12, 2013
1,527
1,947
SF Bay Area
Just got a new error message today:

Navigation System Needs Service
Maps Are Not Loaded

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Anyone seen this before? I don't recall reading anything about it, and a quick search showed nothing.

Have my 3 year service scheduled for April, so will wait until then to see what Tesla says, unless it fixes itself between now and then.
 

trils0n

2013 P85
Feb 12, 2013
1,527
1,947
SF Bay Area
Was going to try a reboot, but forgot after arriving home. Went out to the car for another trip and the message was gone. /shrug. Still going to ask Tesla about it at my service appointment.
 

Evee

Member
Nov 24, 2015
288
152
Las Vegas
Yeah just reset. Or even just ignore it. Next time it boots up it should go away. I've seen this 3 times before. Once immediately following an update.
 

scottm

Legacy account
Jun 13, 2014
3,070
2,233
Canada
Probably wouldn't hurt to empty all your previous Nav searches, if you have hundreds, thousands, of them.
 

garygid

Member
Aug 11, 2014
620
114
Laguna Hills, Orange County, CA
So, it sounds like a software bug, possibly in the Nav or Route Display routines, where the memory usage is not cleaned up properly ... a memory leak. But, nothing to fix in the hardware.

For me, a first symptom is that the traffic speed colors are not shown. I had to do a reboot of the touchscreen yesterday as I was driving, just to see the Route, which sometimes draws at one zoom setting, but not at another zoom level.

Presumably this problem will get fixed in some future release, but it might just get somewhat better, stay the same, or even get worse before it gets fixed.
 

pdq

Member
Jul 1, 2015
227
162
Philadelphia
In 6 months, and 9,000 miles of driving a P90D I haven't seen this message, but if I did I wouldn't care as the Nav system is so stupid that I don't use it. The few times I've tried it, it has tried to take me on truly whacky routes, which is why I have my old Garmin in the car. Plus the Garmin has many, many capabilities than the Tesla lacks.
 
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artsci

Sponsor
May 10, 2012
6,250
3,220
Timonium, Maryland
Just got a new error message today:

Navigation System Needs Service
Maps Are Not Loaded

View attachment 167836

Anyone seen this before? I don't recall reading anything about it, and a quick search showed nothing.

Have my 3 year service scheduled for April, so will wait until then to see what Tesla says, unless it fixes itself between now and then.

I see this message now and then and I ignore it and reboot the system. It goes away only and everything works fine until the next time. Cleary a bug that Tesla has not yet addressed,
 

robert774

Member
Mar 21, 2015
101
29
Katy, Texas
So, it sounds like a software bug, possibly in the Nav or Route Display routines, where the memory usage is not cleaned up properly ... a memory leak. But, nothing to fix in the hardware.

For me, a first symptom is that the traffic speed colors are not shown. I had to do a reboot of the touchscreen yesterday as I was driving, just to see the Route, which sometimes draws at one zoom setting, but not at another zoom level.

Presumably this problem will get fixed in some future release, but it might just get somewhat better, stay the same, or even get worse before it gets fixed.
Like any good software, it will be fixed and two new bugs will be introduced... :)
 

lv2wap

New Member
Jan 30, 2017
3
0
Tampa, FL
I just got this message for the first time and would like to offer an observation. This weekend I discovered Tesla Web Apps and used them a lot today with a long navigated trip. I think the combination caused a shortage of memory/resources and this message was the result. After a while of not using the Web Apps (which included real time weather and news updates) the message went away. I use the GPS often and have the tech package. I think this is a default message.
 

GaryREM

Member
Jul 16, 2013
617
240
Fairfax, VA
I just got this message for the first time and would like to offer an observation. This weekend I discovered Tesla Web Apps and used them a lot today with a long navigated trip. I think the combination caused a shortage of memory/resources and this message was the result. After a while of not using the Web Apps (which included real time weather and news updates) the message went away. I use the GPS often and have the tech package. I think this is a default message.
Interesting observation, maybe a coincidence, but good to note.

I got the message when I started the car this morning. Did a reboot and disappeared. Don't recall having done anything different the day before, but could be long term memory leak which leads to resource shortage as you suggested.
 

DrComputer

Active Member
Jan 29, 2009
1,122
353
Sherman Oaks, CA
Just got the message today. Tried to reboot several times (both screens) and it still appears. E-mailed my service advisor and they "pulled logs" and said I needed to bring it to the service center to be fixed. I asked what needed to be fixed and she didn't know. They scheduled an appointment for next week. Let's see if it magically goes away on its own before my appointment.
 

DrComputer

Active Member
Jan 29, 2009
1,122
353
Sherman Oaks, CA
Car at the service center now and they are trying to figure out the problem. They suspect it is a failed SD card behind the main screen. I'll post when I get the car back as to what they fixed or replaced.
 

ulatif

New Member
Apr 1, 2016
1
0
Dallas
I picked up my new Tesla Model S 75D two days ago and am having similar issues constantly. Tried most of the above reboots, till I found this video before that indicates this is a firmware bug:

Search YouTube for: "Tesla Vehicle Wireless Network Software Glitch (Initializing Loop)"


 

Dissern

Member
Apr 18, 2017
8
2
Norway
Car at the service center now and they are trying to figure out the problem. They suspect it is a failed SD card behind the main screen. I'll post when I get the car back as to what they fixed or replaced.

Hi! Did they find the cause of the issue? I’ve had this error message on my screen ever since I received my new X100, have attempted to reset several times but no success. A fact to point out is that the navigation feature does not work at all
 

pdx3181

Member
Oct 11, 2017
249
229
Portland, OR
Hi! Did they find the cause of the issue? I’ve had this error message on my screen ever since I received my new X100, have attempted to reset several times but no success. A fact to point out is that the navigation feature does not work at all

I had the same issue here:

Just dropped off my month-old 100D for a surprisingly open-ended service appointment

They are apparently aware of the issue and seeking a firmware update. But they were able to solve mine at the SC. No issues in the last week since the reset.
 

docherf

Member
Feb 1, 2016
199
191
US
Just had the same error message on the wife's X100D. First noticed the autopilot wouldn't work, then got the error message. Tried resetting.no luck.keeping fingers crossed it'll just go away overnight.
 

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