Doggydogworld
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EU pooling does not carry over. That's why VW Group and others lump so many EV sales in the last couple months - they want to hit the target exactly without going over.I agree. The credit values are a lot more predictable than analysts are recognizing. The difficulty is that for some reason each EU pool is highly secretive about the terms of each of their agreements.
Also Tesla is in a pool that has never met it’s emissions target. I had done a deep dive of the mechanics of the pools at one point and I believe it was that all pure EVs were super credits and if you did end up in a net credit position there were carry over mechanics to subsequent periods. This would reinforce that the credit revenue is recognized in full on each vehicle sale.
Tesla did the FCA pooling deal in Q1 of 2019, after they'd started shipping Model 3s there and were selling at a 100k+/year pace.I would expect that once Berlin is online and Tesla’s EU volumes are more predictable that they’ll have more negotiating ability to demand pricing that favors them. Keep in mind that Tesla entered these agreements at a time where it had very low volume EU sales.
You're right about pooling deals being too secretive to fully understand, but not about deferred revenue. FCA paid Tesla a big chunk of cash (280m, IIRC) in Q1 2019. Half of that went into deferred revenue. The 140m they did recognize immediately drove that quarter's regulatory credit revenue far above other quarters in 2018-19. So it's clear that neither cash payments nor revenue recognition clock along at a fixed amount per car. Furthermore, EU deliveries were down 10% in 2020 yet reg credit revenue almost tripled from 0.6b to 1.6b. Pooling had a lot more value to FCA in 2020, so they paid ~3x per car more cash and Tesla recognized more revenue.
Stellantis says they'll meet EU 95g quotas on their own going forward. I think a lot of last quarter's 518m revenue was the VW deal in China. I've seen math estimating VW Group needed to buy all of Tesla's NEV credits and then some. At estimated pricing of 2000 RMB per credit that could have been a 300m deal by itself.