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Need Help/Advice - First 38 Days With MYLR - Terrible Experience

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Hello fellow Tesla owners. I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this and offer any help or advice you might have, as at this point I am feeling quite stuck and unsure what to do and not getting much help from Tesla itself. So I will briefly explain the experience I have had with my first Tesla, a 2023 Model Y Long Range, since taking delivery on 12/1/2022. First, I will start with the good things: the car is comfortable, fast, fun to drive, and I am enjoying the Enhanced Auto Pilot features that are currently available. I am also impressed with how it handles the snow once I put snow tires on it (Vredstein Wintrac Pro XL), since I live in Fargo, North Dakota in the USA, this is a very important capability of any vehicle. The vehicle has charged well and reliably and has already saved me a couple hundred dollars in fuel costs over the Ford F-150 I was driving. So there are many things about actually operating the vehicle that I enjoy, however I have had some things happen that have really made these last 40ish days a nightmare.

It started with my delivery. I had delivery scheduled for 11/28/2022 at 1:30pm at the Tesla center in Rogers, MN. (Rogers is about 3 hours away from Fargo). I arrived 15 minutes early, however was told that my vehicle was not there, that it was in Kansas City and they didn't know why or why I was allowed to schedule delivery for a vehicle they didn't have. I had received my invite to schedule delivery on 11/21/2022, which I did right away. From there, the staff at the Rogers Tesla center provided me with a loaner Model 3 and I returned home (another 3 hours). They tentatively rescheduled delivery for 12/1/2022, I had to reach out to them to find out if I had to make the 6 hour round trip to do the delivery, but was told they didn't receive the vehicle on the overnight shipment and that they would push it back again. Later that day, about 1:15pm, I got a message that my vehicle had arrived and that if I could get there before 6pm they would do delivery that day. Since the next 2 days for me were full of other appointments, I did this, but I was in a meeting and couldn't leave until 2pm and the Model 3 couldn't make the 212 mile trip without charging, so I arrived at 5:50pm. I was incredibly rushed, and not given any opportunity to look over the vehicle or ask questions. I was given the 2 key cards, handed the papers I needed to sign and told that my new plates would be sent to me (which was false information). All of this was done incredibly quickly and I felt as though I was being pushed out the door. I had to drive across the street to a gas station and park where I spent the next hour looking over the car, putting in a couple floor mats, applying a screen protector, and trying to learn the screen/system.

4 days after taking delivery, I had a rock or chunk of ice come get kicked up or fall off a semi that was in front of me on the interstate here in town and cause a nasty scrap and big paint chip on the front fender/fascia. Certainly not Tesla's fault there, however, when I filed the insurance claim and got that sorted, Tesla Service told me I had to return to Rogers to do the repair. They decided that they were going to replace the front fascia. When I arrived in Rogers for my service appointment, I was told that they had received the wrong part (they got one for a Model Y with holes for USS, and of course the new ones don't have USS). They would have to order a new one and they weren't sure how long that would take. Their plan was to send it to the Mobile Service team in Fargo and then have them do the repair so that I wouldn't have to go back to Rogers again. This issue has still not been resolved as of today. On Wednesday, 1/4/2023, I got a call from the Mobile Service Team, saying they were going to do the repair on Monday 1/9/2023, however, I later found out the service center didn't yet have the part, and that appointment wasn't be kept due to the following issue.

Later in the day on 1/4/2023, the cabin heating system on my Model Y completely failed. It was 15°F (-9.4°C) outside, and the car just started blowing freezing cold air into the cabin. I quickly got the VCFRONT_a447 error message and a message saying that the climate system was unavailable. When it is that cold outside, it doesn't take long for the windows to start to fog/frost up, and without heat, there isn't a good way to defrost them. This render the vehicle unsafe to operate. I reached out to Tesla via the message option in the Service appointment I had and they told me they had to tow the vehicle back to the Rogers service center and that they would set me up with a rental car (which took 2 days due to rental car availability, which caused a change in plans regarding transportation to a family funeral my family and I had 250 miles away on 1/5/2023). The Rodgers Service center has the vehicle now and was able to start repairs today, and will attempt to also repair the front fascia on Monday, assuming they were able to receive the correct part.

All said, I have made 2 meaningless trips to Rogers to learn that they don't have the thing I made the trip for, the 3rd trip I went for was treated like the most unwanted guest at a neighborhood BBQ when everyone has left, and now I have a car that is less than 40 days old and doesn't have working heat. The only thing I have gotten from a Tesla employee is "I apologize". and an, as yet, unfulfilled promise from the Rogers Service team to have the General Manager call me. I really enjoy the car, but I don't know if I can trust it, the Rogers team, or Tesla logistics to work properly to correct issues should something happen. If you have any help or advice you can offer, please let me know, I really want this to be a better experience from here.

Thank you!
 
Dang, that's frustrating.

I would encourage you to stick with it, but that's easy for me to say, living 20 minutes from a large service center.

The fender is an accident, and Teslas are notoriously difficult to get body parts for. They could do a better job communicating and planning, for sure. I would ask nicely if they could try to be better in the future, given how far you have to drive. I find if I show some empathy for the difficulty of their job, I usually get excellent customer service, even from Tesla.

The heat pump: if that's really what failed, I'm really surprised. 15°F is not that cold, we spent a couple weeks below 0°F, down to -7°F, and it had plenty of heat. (I mean, the car was covered in ice, and hard to open, but it stayed warm).

I'd give them a chance to fix it before throwing in the towel.

That said, I'm not planning on any multi day trips at extreme sub zero temps, I think it's maybe not the best car for that.
 
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Welcome to Tesla - everything you describe is pretty par for the course.

Remote service center is going to be an issue for you. An unfortunate fact of life when they’re spread pretty far apart, particularly in your neck of the woods.

Parts availability is a perpetual issue and you should expect it to continue. Tesla prioritizes new builds over repair parts supply chain and there’s no reason to think that will change in the near future.

Bummer about the heating, but things tend to break when very new or very old so not altogether out of the ordinary.
 
Welcome to Tesla - everything you describe is pretty par for the course.

Remote service center is going to be an issue for you. An unfortunate fact of life when they’re spread pretty far apart, particularly in your neck of the woods.

Parts availability is a perpetual issue and you should expect it to continue. Tesla prioritizes new builds over repair parts supply chain and there’s no reason to think that will change in the near future.

Bummer about the heating, but things tend to break when very new or very old so not altogether out of the ordinary.
Sorry about your problem. I myself would've asked on this forum if getting a Tesla was a good idea in any of the prairie NW states. I live 20 minutes from a service center and getting an appointment for simple stuff is about as hard as getting an appt w a specialist doctor. My next electric car will be with a company that actually has multiple dealerships. I don't think Elon has thought this through and he thinks that by sheer willpower and fear he will get things done.
There are reports that the Germans don't want to work there.
 
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oof, sorry to hear about your string of bad luck. i'm curious as to why the insurance company said you "needed" to go to a tesla service center to have it repaired. there are now multiple "tesla authorized body shops" (but maybe there are none near you?)

tesla parts shortages have been an issue for a while even before the model 3 (released in 2018) and Y were around but it got better. but then covid...... for the front bumper, it's an understandable (but still aggravating) that it was the older part available and not the newest without USS

with the higher volume and since it's not a recent re-design/refresh, i would expect it to be more reliable than the smaller volume S's and the more technically complicated X.

as a tesla driver since 2018 with one of the first model 3 dual motor in the upper midwest (no stranger to really cold winters), i want to reassure you that you didn't make a mistake. My model 3 did not have a heat pump and so the mileage dropped faster on the super cold days.

as for advice, as much as it pains me to say it, get the max rental car insurance coverage you can. i've hit a deer at 65 mph and it needed $10k in repair. I wanted a tesla owned BODY SHOP (different from service center) to repair it, so i had to wait a bit for the repair to be done (2 wks from the accident to the body shop having an opening). there's only 14 in the entire nation outside of california and texas......

 
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Sorry about your problem. I myself would've asked on this forum if getting a Tesla was a good idea in any of the prairie NW states. I live 20 minutes from a service center and getting an appointment for simple stuff is about as hard as getting an appt w a specialist doctor. My next electric car will be with a company that actually has multiple dealerships. I don't think Elon has thought this through and he thinks that by sheer willpower and fear he will get things done.
There are reports that the Germans don't want to work there.
wow. for me, mobile service is usually within 1-2 wks. there are no service centers within 1 hr of me, but if i'm willing to drive 1.5-2 hours (with traffic) there are 3+

there is supposed to be a ramp up of service capacity (mobile and service centers), and they need it, for the increase in teslas on the road...... but i think a limiting factor would be the man-power.......just like all other service-oriented industries, it seems like
 
I have never heard this term used - I think you mean Midwest prairie states
It was easier than saying N/S Dakota, Montana, Wyoming. Tesla I believe are concentrated in metro areas. I see t least 10 to 20 on short drives around whilst shopping etc. But, Sonny Hostin on the view said her husband's Tesla (he's a big time surgeoon in Manhattan) got stuck in Westchester (county north of the Bronx and he waited 5 hours for mobile service They REALLY have to get their stuff together on service and especially parts.
 
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wow. for me, mobile service is usually within 1-2 wks. there are no service centers within 1 hr of me, but if i'm willing to drive 1.5-2 hours (with traffic) there are 3+

there is supposed to be a ramp up of service capacity (mobile and service centers), and they need it, for the increase in teslas on the road...... but i think a limiting factor would be the man-power.......just like all other service-oriented industries, it seems like
You may be right but it costs ALOT of money to put up a service center. On Long Island (Brooklyn Queens, Nassau Suffolk counties) there are 3 service centers, maybe 1 in Brookyn. Poopulation about 8-10 million
 
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my vehicle was not there, that it was in Kansas City and they didn't know why or why I was allowed to schedule delivery for a vehicle they didn't have...they had received the wrong part (they got one for a Model Y with holes for USS, and of course the new ones don't have USS)...I later found out the service center didn't yet have the part, and that appointment wasn't be kept due to the following issue...the cabin heating system on my Model Y completely failed...VCFRONT_a447...I have made 2 meaningless trips to Rogers
This totally sucks. I hope you do get it resolved soon and have a trouble-free future with the car. It really is great.

But this ties into some advice a Tesla friend gave me when I was looking at various options out there, particularly Fisker. He said one of the major considerations is where will you get it serviced if you need it. Fisker and Polestar have nothing nearby.

Tesla is a bit loosely wrapped, so minor misses are not unusual. But, if you only drove 20 minutes to a service center, you tend to forget about them. But if it is a 3-hour drive, then it is a big problem.

I don't have any huge help to offer other than these often do not need much maintenance, so just work through it. And the fun of the cars are really great. But any future service needs will have inconvenience risk due to distance.

I happen to live in an area with 2 Tesla service centers within 30 minutes and a 3rd coming. This is a great city for a Tesla. But when you live in an area where the nearest service center is 3 hours away, ownership can be tough at times (but that would apply to anything, not just a Tesla).
 
I appreciate everyone's responses. It seems as though the general sentiment among Tesla this group of Tesla owners is one of "This is standard operation and practice." Which is not confidence inspiring in the least. Reliability in a vehicle is a critical component of it's value and the determination of whether or not it's good. It really doesn't matter how cool it is or how much money it will save, if I can't trust it to work.

i'm curious as to why the insurance company said you "needed" to go to a tesla service center to have it repaired. there are now multiple "tesla authorized body shops" (but maybe there are none near you?)

It wasn't the insurance company, it was Tesla. My insurance company doesn't really care where it's repaired, they told me to ask Tesla. There are no Tesla authorized body shops in Fargo.

as a tesla driver since 2018 with one of the first model 3 dual motor in the upper midwest (no stranger to really cold winters), i want to reassure you that you didn't make a mistake.

I really appreciate this, thank you.

I myself would've asked on this forum if getting a Tesla was a good idea in any of the prairie NW states

I checked with a couple Tesla owners who are here in town, and they haven't had any significant issues, others than they are disappointed with range loss in the cold (one particularly who has a Model 3). There are many Tesla's that are on the road here and of course many owners in Canada. So there is plenty of data on Teslas in cold weather environments.
 
The person disapppointed in a model 3 range drop in the cold may have an older model without the heat pump, which makes a huge difference.

During the recent freeze around Christmas, I made a round trip without needing to recharge with 40 miles left. About 1 year ago, I made the exact trip in my model 3 (no heat pump) in similar subfreezing temps, and I needed to charge up for 30 min to make it home. My car had 4 people in it each time.
 
I appreciate everyone's responses. It seems as though the general sentiment among Tesla this group of Tesla owners is one of "This is standard operation and practice." Which is not confidence inspiring in the least.
Please bear in mind that Tesla Moaners Club has the highest density of 'people who own a thing but also have a grudge against that thing' you will ever encounter, anywhere. There are millions of Teslas on the roads and most people have a perfectly happy experience.

I'm really sorry you're having a bad time when a new car should be exciting and fun - I hope it gets sorted.
 
I appreciate everyone's responses. It seems as though the general sentiment among Tesla this group of Tesla owners is one of "This is standard operation and practice." Which is not confidence inspiring in the least. Reliability in a vehicle is a critical component of it's value and the determination of whether or not it's good. It really doesn't matter how cool it is or how much money it will save, if I can't trust it to work.



It wasn't the insurance company, it was Tesla. My insurance company doesn't really care where it's repaired, they told me to ask Tesla. There are no Tesla authorized body shops in Fargo.



I really appreciate this, thank you.



I checked with a couple Tesla owners who are here in town, and they haven't had any significant issues, others than they are disappointed with range loss in the cold (one particularly who has a Model 3). There are many Tesla's that are on the road here and of course many owners in Canada. So there is plenty of data on Teslas in cold weather environments.
I lost 6 percent of range loss last night when it went into the high 20s night before last and I live EAST of NYC
 
That's a lot of bad luck! I doubt the climate system failed due to the temperature. Just bad luck.

Unfortunately body work is a PIA all around these days, for all manufacturers. I had my previous VW in for an accident repair and it took 6 months over the 2 month estimate (waiting on parts from VW). It's just the times and not necessarily Tesla (although Tesla has never excelled at this as others have noted).

It seems like you enjoy the vehicle (when it's working!). I'd take the rental car and patiently wait until the Tesla is ready.

I have not had any issues with my MYP, but when I had my 2017 S there were definitely a few things that went wrong and the repair for which was more like a Honda/Toyota experience than an Acura/Lexus experience. In the end, I've found it's worth it to just be patient. The good far outweighs the bad and there is no such thing as perfect.
 
Ouch but what you're currently experience is the logistical issue that Tesla seems to have with sourcing parts. I myself have had 4 mobile service appointments change up due to parts. They are smaller parts in comparison to yours so it doesn't matter the size of the project, the disconnect is real. The SA do mean well but I have this feeling that they have a surface level type of service.

Say all the right stuff up front and just deal with it on the back end. A couple of times the SA or the Mobile tech will tell me that they got the parts, shouldn't be an issue, we can meet that date, etc. only to delay and push it back because they can't meet the date they themselves set due to whatever internal information that I don't even have.

Hang in there.
 
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