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NEMA 14-50 Plug Orientation

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by Chas F, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. mulder1231

    mulder1231 Active Member

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    I found an elegant solution for this. Bracket is from Pit Pal.

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  2. carrerascott

    carrerascott FUEL FTR

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    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I like. No sharp edges.
     
  4. mknox

    mknox Well-Known Member

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    That was a kind of unofficial Canadian protocol back in the '60s. Someone once told me it was a sign that the wiring was done by a Union electrician. You rarely see it any more (typically ground pin on the bottom).
     
  5. pilotSteve

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    When My 6-50 (temporary until HPWC) was being installed, the electrician called me and asked whether I wanted ground pin on top or bottom. I checked TMC and told him top. Good electrician.
     
  6. grisnjam

    grisnjam P6316

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    My 14-50 (which came with the house) was installed upside down. I simply shut off the cirucut, removed the front plate, unscrewed the plug mount and flipped it over. Reinstalled the mount and plate. Super easy, depending on your outlet housing (mind is a junction box in the drywall). I also got one of these racks for the cable:

    Amazon.com: Racor SHR-1B SNAP2IT Hose Rack: Home Improvement

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    It works really well.
     
  7. neroden

    neroden Model S Owner and Frustrated Tesla Fan

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    I was told by my electricians that this is best modern practice even for 5-15s, and is done also in case something metal falls on top of a loose plug

    ...however, I was also told that it is traditional to install 5-15s with ground pin down, and that there are so many plugs which require it that they usually do it that way for houses even though it's not considered best practices. But they install everything else with ground pins up.

    Of course, I have several appliances with 5-15 plugs which want the ground pins up, so their cords are kinked... Well, whatever....
     
  8. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

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    Yup. I have all extension cords with all 4 orientations with ground pin down... up, down, left-90 deg, right-90 deg.

    There are many electricians (and DIY'ers) who have taken off stainless steel outlet covers with plugs still plugged in and accidentally dropped them across the hot and neutral -- I've certainly done it. If a receptacle is getting a stainless steel cover, I will install it ground pin up every time. Murphy guarantees that a stainless steel cover will find a way to wedge itself between a plug and its receptacle so it will short it.
     
  9. SuperCoug

    SuperCoug Model S Res #7734

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    Thanks for the heads up and the link, that looks perfect! I'm going to order one right away.

    This forum has been a terrific resource for great accessories like this that I've been really glad I ordered. I've also taken advantage of the links to: cargo nets, LED license plate bulbs, car mats, protective film for the 17" display. Now all I need is my car! My delivery windows starts in 4 days. :love:
     
  10. ahimberg

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    I've seen some garage photos posted here with people using a tornado brand hook (easy to find at home depot)
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    any concerns about kinkage? I bought one, but haven't installed it in the garage yet.
     
  11. grisnjam

    grisnjam P6316

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    Thanks, I found it from someone else on this forum :)

    Here is a shot of it installed:

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  12. Chas F

    Chas F Model S 60kWh #P6396

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    I just bought the same one! I think it was the next size up though. Won't be able to test it our for at least another couple of months though :crying:
     
  13. Gino Bernardi

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    I too found out about the upsidedowness of the plug and outlet after-the-fact. I wish i would have seen this thread sooner, but here is a rather nice solution. Kink removed! clips.jpg
     
  14. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I like the red clips. Happen to have a link to where to get the online? Or maybe some brand and item info? Thanks.
     
  15. JerryNycom

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    I am having mined flipped. Don't like the way it bends the cable.
     

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  16. mknox

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    In the mean time, you may want to zip tie your cable to the downspout about a foot up from the outlet. That looks like a lot of strain on the connector...
     
  17. tomanik

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    Just finished this install on the weekend. Used double sided sticky tape to stick it to the 2x4, can remove if needed but I will have a spare for the car.

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  18. ABVA

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    I would like to test the installation before plugging my MS. Does anybody know how to test NEMA 14-50 after install? Any help is really appreciated
     
  19. markb1

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    You can use a multi meter to measure the voltage. Should be about 120 from neutral to either hot, and 240 from hot to hot. But the best test would be to have another Model S owner come by and try to charge.
     

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