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NEMA 14-50 Shortage

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by gavine, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. gavine

    gavine Petrol Head turned EV Enthusiast

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    With the pending sales success of the Model 3, I predict a shortage of NEMA 14-50 outlets. When the Model 3 is released, there will be 100's of thousands of people buying these outlets for their home-charging. I have to assume the manufacturers of these outlets aren't preparing for this but they should.

    So, at less than $10, it might not be a bad idea to buy the outlet now so you'll have it when the time comes because who knows how bad the shortage might be. And, even if I'm wrong, no harm in spending $10 now instead of later in my opinion.
     
  2. doublejj

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    These cars won't all hit the road at once, they will trickle out. Manufacturers of outlets will have plenty of time to ramp up production to meet demand.....this ain't rocket science
     
  3. ucmndd

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    LOL, no.
     
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    No, it's SOCKET science. :)
     
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    Million of NEMA 14-50 outlets are needed every year just for new homes built.

    So, no, Model 3 sales won't create a shortage.
     
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  6. ucmndd

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    Each of the 20 Home Depot stores within 70 miles of me has at least 10-20 in stock. I think we'll be just fine.
     
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  7. Craig9080

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    Time for some math shall we.

    Most common 14-50 used: Dryers, Cooking Ranges, RVs

    Number of households in US: 133,957,180

    Lets assume that each household either has a dryer or that one in a Hotel/Coin-op would work out to cover down

    Lets also assume that each home has a Cooking Range from the same logic

    According to the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association, at last count 8.9 million households has RVs.

    Spitball math that puts the number of NEMA 14-50s being used today at 276,514,360.

    I don't think the market is even going to notice an additional 250k over the course of a year or two.
     
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  8. MP3Mike

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    Really? I have never seen a 14-50 outlet installed in a house unless it was custom ordered for a welder. I know my house had 3) 10-30s, but no 14-50s...
     
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    Really? I thought most dryers/ranges used 10-30 or 14-30 outlets. Not 14-50s.
     
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    Lol, ok.

    You act like these outlets are only used for people charging their electric vehicles. Do you have any idea how many things run on 240 power? Any idea how many manufacturing facilities exist? How many 240 outlets your home already uses?
     
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    Another reason to short the stock
     
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  12. Craig9080

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    Good catch. I got happy with my math. Apparently dryers are mainly 14-30's; however most stoves I can find are 14-50's. So going back the numbers that brings us to 142,857,180 only accounting for HOUSEHOLD usage which I have to assume is the lesser of the two when comparing to industrial usage...again...no shortage in sight.
     
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    #13 tga, Apr 5, 2016
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    Dryers use 14-30's, not 14-50's.

    Ranges are 14-50 (sometimes on a 40A breaker if the range's nameplate rating is <=40A)

    Housing starts in Feb were 100k (1.2m annualized), so I wouldn't worry about it.
     
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    #14 Mark Z, Apr 5, 2016
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    I would only be concerned if Tesla Motors was the exclusive manufacturer of NEMA 14-50R.

    This indoor/outdoor type can make installation easier for your electrician. I had one installed on the wall of the garage behind the circuit breaker panel:

    Shop Eaton 50-Amp Overhead Temporary Power Panel at Lowes.com
     
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  15. Tiberius

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    I agree with the naysayers, but good on your for thinking ahead. It sure didn't occur to me...
     
  16. gavine

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    All of this over a $10 purchase. Better safe than sorry in my book.
     
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    Dryers use 14-30, ranges use 14-50.
     

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