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New 10X battery technology!

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  1. zack

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    BBC News - Scientists boost battery strength with small holes

    Batteries for phones and laptops could soon recharge ten times faster and hold a charge ten times larger than current technology allows.

    Scientists at Northwestern University in the US have changed the materials in lithium-ion batteries to boost their abilities.

    One change involves poking millions of minuscule holes in the battery.

    Batteries built using the novel technique could be in the shops within five years, estimate the scientists.
     
  2. TEG

    TEG TMC Moderator

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    There have been so many announcements of breakthroughs but getting from lab success to manufacturing consistency is a tall hill to climb.

    Hopefully at least one of the things we have been hearing about will show up for consumers in 5 years time.

    Ultracaps? Nanotube filaments? etc...

    Anyone for 3000 miles on one charge?!
     
  3. Norbert

    Norbert TSLA will win

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    Sounds great, maybe add it to the Battery tech sub forum (perhaps in the thread "It's the batteries, ...").

    However this is a sign which usually indicates technical improvements which one doesn't hear about afterwards anymore (until perhaps in a few years):

     
  4. Mycroft

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    I wonder if in 10 years the batteries in the Roadster and even the Model S will seem as quaint as the lead-acids of the EV1.

    One can only hope.
     
  5. Norbert

    Norbert TSLA will win

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    I'm sure they will... which is one of the reasons they made the battery pack swappable... so you can quickly replace it before it gets embarassing. :scared:
     
  6. zack

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    If I think about the implications of the destructive force of 10X a modern-day lithium, it gives me pause. Driving on dynamite.
     
  7. VolkerP

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    We've made a bigger racket, now we need bigger balls...
     
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    Yeah, might be almost as bad as gasoline.
     
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    And all they will allow is 3.3 kwh charging, probably on 110. Let's say 3 weeks to charge your car.
     
  10. Lloyd

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    Yes, but if you had a 3000 mile range, that rate would be sufficient!
     
  11. Todd Burch

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    That's an important point. If 10x range is feasible in the next few decades, then the need for fast charging goes away.

    Although, of course it'll be needed for the next few decades until that technology is ready. Fortunately fast charging networks are relatively inexpensive to set up.
     
  12. Robert.Boston

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    But remember -- if the battery capability goes 10x, auto makers won't keep the same size batteries: who needs a 3,000 mile range? They'll cut down the battery size to save costs. A 500-mile battery would then be a good reach, but I'm sure that smaller, cheaper packs would be out there, too. A slow charging rate and a small pack would not be a happy combo.
     
  13. zack

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    Hmm. 300 mile pack becomes tiny and light. 150 lbs maybe? And the trunk becomes normal-sized. And you just have to find a house near a substation so you can charge in 3 minutes at 1,370kW. That would work. 8^D
     
  14. Norbert

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    3000 mile batteries + battery swapping would be interesting (if not too expensive) for those who don't have a garage where they can install a charger (of sufficient power).
     
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    Hey, 100 mile batteries and battery swapping would be pretty dang practical. The pack would be light enough to be lifted out of the car by hand.
     
  16. Todd Burch

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    Sure...all depends on cost. The sweet spot would definitely be around 5-800 miles...but that would still require infrastructure for people to charge overnight on cross-country trips. a beefy 3k mile range battery would require almost no public infrastructure.

    Either way, these are all just fantasies for now...
     

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