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46&2

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Would that offer a suitable simulation?
Most likely no.

The new steering might go 90 degrees to the left and to the right, from full lock to full lock. Maybe a bit more. To be convenient, we expect it to be variable, somehow, and adjusting for speed.

So a normal wheel will have to be turned much further, and you are MORE likely to move your hands. Your suggestion might work at highway speed, where you never turn 90 degrees. It will not work for parking, as the steering action will be quite different.
 

4SUPER9

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Most likely no.

The new steering might go 90 degrees to the left and to the right, from full lock to full lock. Maybe a bit more. To be convenient, we expect it to be variable, somehow, and adjusting for speed.

So a normal wheel will have to be turned much further, and you are MORE likely to move your hands. Your suggestion might work at highway speed, where you never turn 90 degrees. It will not work for parking, as the steering action will be quite different.
This makes perfect sense. Thank you for this explanation.
 
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On another note, has anyone seen the front cupholders? I haven't seen a pic of them and I hope they aren't flimsy trash and actually support holding various sizes of cups unlike the current model.
 

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... assuming they can pull this off and it still feels natural, otherwise folks will hate it.

I bet it's going to be normal, just no top part of the wheel. No reason to get crazy.

I'm a bit more curious to see whether it's steer by wire or traditional linkage.
If the above-mentioned theory was actually implemented, it would seem to be "by wire", meaning electronic, allowing for a computer to create an adaptive steering approach. Elon has always tried to "reinvent the wheel". I guess this time he means it.
 

Maybe22

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Maybe the fact that he hasn't had his dedicated refresh press conference signifies they are still sorting out a lot these questions... ie, not really delivering this month.... or it could be he's busy with other things, like talking up his bitcoin investment and blowing up his rockets...
 

GlmnAlyAirCar

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If the above-mentioned theory was actually implemented, it would seem to be "by wire", meaning electronic, allowing for a computer to create an adaptive steering approach. Elon has always tried to "reinvent the wheel". I guess this time he means it.
This would be a tremendous difficult things to get certified. Mechanical linkages are always available and don’t require any power or computers to operate, even if a bit degraded. Steer by wire would require significant redundancy to achieve similar reliability (redundant motors, dedicated power supplies, etc.) What would the benefit be? I’m not seeing one.

this is nothing but a standard steering wheel with the top cut off.
 

sillydriver

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I see Audi officially introduced the e-tron GT. It has the same price (RS version) range (roughly speaking) and acceleration (3.1s before my Ludicrous upgrade) but less passenger and cargo space and I think no autopilot compared with my six year old P85D, which I have an order to replace with Plaid+, which has about twice the horsepower. But my god the GT is a pretty car. And Audi probably has humans you can call in the service department too... Sigh
 
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boonedocks

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I see Audi officially introduced the e-tron GT. It has the same price (RS version) range (roughly speaking) and acceleration (3.1s before my Ludicrous upgrade) but less passenger and cargo space and I think no autopilot compared with my six year old P85D, which I have an order to replace with Plaid+, which has about twice the horsepower. But my god the GT is a pretty car. And Audi probably has humans you can call in the service department too... Sigh
and don’t forget it has lots of buttons :eek::D
 

DukeofURL

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And Audi probably has humans you can call in the service department too... Sigh
I have friends who work in the service departments of Audi, BMW, and some independent shops. My life would be a lot easier if I stayed with the big names, but I just can’t stay away from the bleeding edge tech, lol.
 

46&2

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Oh, I forgot to add:
This would be a tremendous difficult things to get certified.

Infiniti did so years ago. Tripple systems/redundancy, mechanically operating fallback - it CAN be done. Not sure how people liked that one, I found mixed reviews. I hope Tesla can do a convincing job, years later.
 

DukeofURL

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Tesla is contacting those who have pre-ordered the “Refreshed” versions of the Model X crossover, communicating that they should prepare for delivery between February 15th and March 15th.

Tesla contacts Model X 'Refresh' orderers with delivery date range

Hopefully that means test drives are also right around the corner.
Awesome that the window is only 4 days away, I'm tired of all the speculation and can't wait to hear some things from people who have actually been in one of the new models!
 

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