New 2021 Model S Unveiled January 27, 2021

[David29]

Yep, don't like the steering yoke! I hope it is an option!!

That is what shows on the order page already, not an option. Bad, bad design choice.

 

[Jaevo]

I'm all in. Ordered!

 

[AMPd]

L-O-L another elon Musk childhood dream applied in the real world, unfortunately. That steering “wheel” is stupid, imagine driving and parking with that thing where you need to turn the wheel and cut hard.

They couldn’t keep it normal? Always needing to force a gimmick into what should be a nice car.

Thanks Tesla, I wasn’t all too happy with the company but I thought nah I’ll wait and see what the refresh has to offer before I decide, so I guess a Porsche Panamera it is.

 

[Jaevo]

Great as long as you are going 220. Watch Hamilton go thru the hairpin at Monoco and you see the issue. It’s low speed that cause problems. Some states even call out that a steering wheel must be round and at least 13 inches across

Full Lock - Monaco

 

[rosegrif1]

All in here too - looks fantastic - just hope all the other 3 features are in - like phone key etc....hope to see some video reviews soon

 

[David29]

....

Minimalistic interior can look cheap if you're used to buttons everywhere, but clean design will grow on you. Then buttons everywhere will look like something out of the 80's.

But buttons work, and Model S had only a very few. From a human factors viewpoint, the new design looks confusing and dangerous. I'd really like to know if they did a formal HFE review, who did it, and what the results said.

 

[Needsdecaf]

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• I guess I'm in the minority here - I want this new S so badly!! I love it!! Nobody seems to be talking about the new powertrain, new battery, updated motors etc.
  
  Most folks seem fixated on the yoke steering wheel and removal of stalks.

  
  They are fixated on that yoke for a reason. And it’s not good.

 

[Cheburashka]

Great as long as you are going 220. Watch Hamilton go thru the hairpin at Monoco and you see the issue. It’s low speed that cause problems. Some states even call out that a steering wheel must be round and at least 13 inches across

Are we all just going to keep pretending that dynamic steering doesn't exist? F1 cars don't have this but the new MS will have to.

Audi Technology Portal - Dynamic steering

 

[Needsdecaf]

But buttons work, and Model S had only a very few. From a human factors viewpoint, the new design looks confusing and dangerous. I'd really like to know if they did a formal HFE review, who did it, and what the results said.

let’s hope they didn’t use the same team that designed the most recent UI

 

[David29]

That steering wheel...

It's interesting. It clears up the view to the IC. I don't know how it's supposed to work safely but I say give Tesla a chance. Maybe when they do an official announcement they'll explain that they've done something clever with it.

Was there any discussion of the new design in the earnings call? i wasn't able to listen....

 

[AMPd]

Full Lock - Monaco

That’s great if you never need to do things like make <90 degree turns or park.

 

[Mash]

I'm sure that steering wheel debacle going to make so much marketing and shop visits that they will achieve their goal with refresh.

 

[TMThree]

From a human factors viewpoint, the new design looks confusing and dangerous. I'd really like to know if they did a formal HFE review, who did it, and what the results said.

Going to need you to back up the claim. Especially given that we have 3 years of history with model 3 and the "dangerous" lack of buttons to call upon.

 

[AhwatukeeDad]

I am one of those. I hope so. Ordered last week. I would be ok with current model or new. Someone will make a retrofit for the wheel and make it round. Not sure how, but there will probably be enough people to want that.

Share your story however it ends up please!

 

[brunla]

Elon Musk can build rockets that go into space, but he can't build a car with a yoke that will work properly and be safe? Give me a break! You are looking at the future people.

 

[smartypnz]

Shouldn't be too hard to duct tape a child's wagon wheel to the new designed MS steering wheel.

 

[ucmndd]

The whole Who Moved My Cheese crowd is really leaning hard into this steering wheel thing.

 

[smartypnz]

Bet you guys didn't realize that there are no pedals. Just push the yoke forward and back to accelerate and decelerate.

 

[Dagobah]

With the stalks gone, how will drive modes be selected (park/reverse/drive/neutral) or autopilot/cruise enabled? Surely not through the screen, right?

 

[Jarvisd1015]

With the stalks gone, how will drive modes be selected (park/reverse/drive/neutral) or autopilot/cruise enabled? Surely not through the screen, right?

There are a few new buttons on the steering wheel, I imagine this is one of them.