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New 2023 Refresh Update
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AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
You got the heat pump. Right? Only for 2021. And displayed range of 353. You did not get the 82.1kWh battery, but the EPA test for 2021 was done with the 77.8kWh battery. Later buyers of 2021 got the 82.1kWh pack bonus added for “free.” (And a bump to 358 miles of range.) And then finally for 2022 it was retested (actually tested in 2021) with that pack.
Big changes can occur and do occur on Model year transitions. Far more likely than at any other time of year (where smaller changes occur).
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
Yeah I got the heat pump and several other lesser spec changes. What I didn't get of note was the heated steering wheel, revised interior door trims and probably a few other bits I can't remember. Prior to the 2021 refresh I don't recall much happening in the previous model year. So I don't think it's inevitable that we will see any "big" changes for the 2023 model year - but I haven't been following the rumours. I expect whatever changes are coming up will simply go into production whenever they are available regardless of model year. That's how Tesla historically operated anyway.
Sounds about right i.e. Model Year change is just academic for Tesla and doesn't necessarily relate to any specific new spec. Stuff just happens whenever it comes online.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
I don’t think so either.
Model years are where big changes can take place. (And as discussed significant changes can take place at other times too. But model years are a time of particular significance to Tesla, since that is the way the industry is set up.)
no. no it doesn't. source: since the beginning of Y production it's refreshes have not lined up with the 3.
It's been ahead of most.
a refresh only means they are changing certain features like in the past with laminated windows, heated steering wheel etc.... but has no real bearing on which cars get the changes and when, depending on inventory and location. the only yearly update you can rely on is the christmas update for software
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
Why do you say that? Tesla has pretty consistently ignored model years and updated features in its cars whenever they were ready.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Because that is not historically (meaning, last 2-3 years) how it has worked for Tesla!
If you can’t read what I have posted, providing specific MAJOR examples of this, I don’t know what to tell you.
I don’t expect anything big this year though.
Main difference vs. most others is that Tesla also updates during the year.
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ord3r
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Any chance of HW4 making an appearance this year? That’s the main thing that would make be consider pulling the trigger on a new Y.
This is an interesting discussion. And I agree. Most 2022 model Ys, which VINs began delivery in October of last year, have a suite of "new features" including Ryzen chip, heated wiper tray, and lithium low voltage battery. I am not sure what else one would say defines the 2022. However, the first cars with those features were delivered like the last week of December. And my car, built at the end of January, has the old chip and battery.
So, I guess the conclusion is that I have a 2021 that Tesla mistakenly assigned a 2022 VIN in January 2022 when they built it. Or, it means January is actually the same month as October of the previous year because, as we all know, that's when major changes occur.
Anyway, I am happy with my car.
So, I guess the conclusion is that I have a 2021 that Tesla mistakenly assigned a 2022 VIN in January 2022 when they built it. Or, it means January is actually the same month as October of the previous year because, as we all know, that's when major changes occur.
Anyway, I am happy with my car.
Can’t believe I am poking this again but of the 25 plus upgrades and down (since my 2020 MYP) none were new model year improvements sorry. You suggest the heat pump but every MY had that from day one and the reason the M3 transitioned was for build symmetry. The upgrades are random and Unpredictable with Tesla. Not sayin that’s bad but that Is the way it is.Because that is not historically (meaning, last 2-3 years) how it has worked for Tesla!
If you can’t read what I have posted, providing specific MAJOR examples of this, I don’t know what to tell you.
I don’t expect anything big this year though.
Main difference vs. most others is that Tesla also updates during the year.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
The Model Y was released 2 years ago, updates since then:Because that is not historically (meaning, last 2-3 years) how it has worked for Tesla!
If you can’t read what I have posted, providing specific MAJOR examples of this, I don’t know what to tell you.
I don’t expect anything big this year though.
Main difference vs. most others is that Tesla also updates during the year.
- Bigger battery pack (82kWh instead of ~75kWh)
- Exterior speaker (Boombox)
- HEPA filter and Bioweapon mode
- Full rear mega casting (instead of two halves)
- Heat pump sound damping shroud
- IR cabin camera
- Seven-seat option
- Fixed turn signal cameras (no glare)
- Heated steering wheel
- Windshield wiper defrost
- Double-paned windows (front)
- Double-paned windows (rear)
- New center console design
- New door buttons and matte finish panels
- Metal steering wheel buttons
- Dimming side mirrors
- AMD processor
- Lithium-ion 12V battery
- Sealed front ball joints
- Matrix LED headlights (Performance versions so far)
- USB in the glove box for Sentry Mode + free thumb drive
- Tie-down hooks in the trunk (China-only right now?)
- 4680 cells and structural battery pack (coming first at Giga Austin)
- Cargo cover (China-only for now)
- Turn signals are now amber color and larger.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
This (certainly the most impactful and significant item on your list!) literally happened on the 2020 to 2021 transition for the Model Y Performance.
MY Performance 2020
MY Performance 2021. (And Long Range AWD 2021)
MY Long Range AWD 2022
I don't understand what we're arguing about. Major changes have an increased likelihood to happen on model year transitions because that's the way the industry is set up. (Specifically, competition on range.) Now, it's possible you could buy a car prior to that model year transition and there's some possibility it could have the larger pack (this nearly certainly happened for some Model Y 2021 Long Range AWD owners, where the transition officially occurred in model year 2022) - but not guaranteed.
These changes are literally tied to the model year due to that being the way it is distinguished by the EPA.
Unlike other manufacturers, Tesla makes changes throughout the year! So you're likely to lose out on MUCH less by simply buying. I keep saying this.
But if someone asks near the model year boundary: "Should I wait?" - I would tell them certainly yes unless there was some obvious reason not to.
It's weird how people claim that Tesla "doesn't have model year updates." It's almost like Elon said that at some point, given that people are so fixated on it being somehow 100% true. Almost, lol.
I don't understand what the discussion is either, Alan. The link you provided for the 2022 model year is dated 1/27/22, and the major changes actually truly did occur around that time, yet the 2022 VINs started coming out in mid-October 2021, over three months earlier. Those cars did not have the modifications.
terraform
21' Model Y
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
Even if it did, things like the and megacasting are actually bigger changes and they didn’t. There have been 20-some changes to the MY in 2 years. Just the sheer number of them means some will occur at the hypothetical model year transition. That‘s just statistics, not proof of a model year philosophy.
