So I am in the market for a new car and I have been researching Tesla for some time since my test drive about 2 months ago (tested a regular S85 and was impressed). After the 70D came out, I personally felt that it was clearly the best choice compared with S85, which I was planning to order with fairly light options. A 70D with just about 6 to 7k of options would have everything I would need and the most current technology. Now that the CPO site came out, I am debating again... particularly between a new 70D and a 2012/early 2013 P85. Depending on miles/vin, the CPO P85s are just about the same price or a handful of thousands cheaper than a new 70D after incentives, so pricing wise they are right in my range. I personally enjoy performance, driving dynamics, and technology. So now the debate is to find a balance between the 3... Obviously the P85's are better in terms of performance but new 70D better in terms of technology. What I would miss out are autopilot and parking sensors. But there are a few other things I am not clear about so could others please help answering these? 1. I heard that the very early signature P85's had an early suspension that wasnot very good in terms of handling, and that this was changed fairly early. Does that mean all non-signature P85's have the same suspension as the new 70D basically? 2. Are the wheel lines (lines indicating where you would go) in the reverse camera hardware things or were they added through software update to all cars? Basically would early P85s have them? 3. I assume these <10000 vin cars would not have folding mirrors, correct? 4. Any other things I don't know about? Thanks for any answers. Also, what would you choose between these two if you are/were in the market? Just want to hear others opinions. - - - Updated - - - One clarification, the suspension would be the air suspension since almost all P85s comes with that. But given that, has the regular suspension changed?