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New 85kWH battery for my 2013 P85+

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by Chilam, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. Electric700

    Electric700 Active Member

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    Sorry to see that. I think charging complete at 31 miles probably means you'll need a new and improved main battery. Starting more than a year ago, the improved main batteries should prevent that fault from occurring (according to Tesla).

    Since yours is a 2013, I think there's a good chance you will be receiving the new improved battery.
     
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  2. Brass Guy

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    Actually "Charging complete" just means I plugged it in and it won't charge. I had charged at work, completed at 158 or so at 80%.
    I do expect a battery, crossing my fingers for a new one rather than refurb I've seen posted a bunch lately.
     
  3. eugenetk

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    Finally dropped off my car at the service center after 2 months of waiting for an appointment. How long has the battery replacement taken for you guys?
     
  4. Brass Guy

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    Mine's been there a week and they still haven't told me anything. Not even whether they're changing the battery.

    I did get a loaner so it's not too big of a deal if it takes a while. It's a standard M3 with autopilot, locked in chill mode. Autopilot is a neat trick but I'd much rather drive my car.
     
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  5. nwdrive

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    Just got mine back. Towed in the night of the 7th, done on the 19th. Not too bad for turnaround time considering the weather. My reman pack shows 206 miles at 80% so nothing to complain about yet.

    Haven’t supercharged, but I saw them charging it on the app before I picked it up and it was pulling 26kw with the battery at 86% so definitely not any worse than the new normal.
     
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  6. petterware

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    Hi, guys,

    I had my Model S85 (Dec 2014) with a series of warnings and failures from BMS. After two weeks in SC they concluded that they could not get the errors reproduced after checking all the wires and connectors for HV circuit. So they asked my to take the car back home.

    I did two weeks ago, and when I got inside the car and was about to drive back home (500km.... from Madrid to Seville in Spain) a checked the messages log to discover that new messages had appeard that night in the SC. So the took the car in the workshop again. Luckily they lend me a loaner (M3 long range with AP).

    They confirmed that the failure was in the HV battery pack, and ordered a 1088815-01-D 85kWh 400V reman pack for my car. It was almost ready last friday when the were going to pressurize the coolant circuit and one connector failed and there was a coolant leak....I could not believe it. They have ordered the connector and the car IS SUPPOSED to be ready tomorrow.....we shall see...

    My original pack was giving me 360km typical rage, and would not charge over 60kW at SuCs. I am very interested to check what numbers I get with the "new" pack. I took a few screenshots from the Tesla app while the car was in the workshop and could see that the range was around my previous range (350 km) with the "new" pack, but with the cold symbol and the values changed a lot from time to time. They told me over the phone that those numbers were not accurate or real until they finish the installation of the pack. Please see screenshots.

    I will let you know what real numbers I get once I have the car and are able to supercharge.

    Regards,
    Pedro
     

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  7. eugenetk

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    Fingers crossed. I’m dealing with the Puerto Rico new center, that can’t give me a loaner or Uber credits yet unfortunately. But better than shipping my car back to Florida I suppose
     
  8. rns-e

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    Just got my Euro P85DL March 2015 back with a replaced battery and it now has the 350V 1014116-00-a battery. I have not been through all the posts, so a simple quick question - so should I be glad or sad?
     
  9. T.R.T.e.s.l.a.

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    You should be very happy!
    What range does it display now at 100%? (you can check it with the app, you don't need to actually charge it to 100%)
     
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  10. rns-e

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    Just did the quick calculations. At 90% it says 381km and I checked the capacity via the energy app. It said 303 Wh/km would give a range of 255 km at 90% which should be around 85 kWh. So that all seems very good and much better than the old battery.

    I have not checked the acceleration yet, but given it is a Ludicrous I'm a little concerned about the 350V. The P85DL draws 1500 amps at 400V to give 600kW before the voltage drop :) In order for this to happen with the 350V it needs to draw something like 1715 amps and will the voltage drop on a 350V be more agressive than on a 400V? I think the P100DL draws around the 1700 amps, but is everything in the P85DL capable of handling the extra 15%? I want the performance, but not if it come with a smell of burnt electronics :)
     
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  11. kceire

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    Hi from Ireland!

    July 2014 P85+ with 106,500km and have just got these errors.
    Car had no symptoms, my regular charge to 99% showed a 464km typical range. my factory battery is the 85 kWh 400VDC version (part number 1014114-00-D) and serial number T14F0045264.

    Everything normal, plugged in to charge at home and noticed it stopped charging at 64%. then got the maximum battery charge level reduced, no regen and significantly reduced performance.

    Tesla over the air diagnostic confirmed HV Battery replacement required.
    Part ordered, so will update how it goes.
    I expect it to take 2 weeks to arrive and then 3 days in the Service Centre according to Tesl.
     
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  12. kceire

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    Just to add to my post above. Car completely died today. Dash showed 72%. Drove 8 km and the car displayed p%. No power, low voltage warnings and car just went dark.

    it was put on a tow truck and sent to the Service Centre while awaiting a new HV Battery
     
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  13. Florian500

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    Do you have TeslaLogger or similar? Can you record Supercharger sessions?
     
  14. rns-e

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    I will try to get a Scan My Tesla and ODB2 adapter cable and ODB2 reader for the weekend. The I will see if I can document a Supercharger session and some acceleration runs to see what kind of power it delivers. My butt-ometer tells me it is more than Insane mode, but if it is Ludicrous or not I don't know. The grip has been an issue with the few runs I've done so far.
     
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  15. Florian500

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    No need to use SMT, TeslaLogger alone is fine to record charging sessions

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  16. rns-e

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    I'm actually most interested in finding out if the battery is capable of delivering power enough for the Ludicrous, the Supercharging is secondary to me, although I expect it to be much better than the old battery.
     
  17. Florian500

    Florian500 Member

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    Well, for lots of people the reduced Supercharging speed is a huge problem. Do it for public knowledge and the greater good :)

    Back to topic: finally very good news that this 14of16 remanufactured 100 pack is finally available in Europe.
     
  18. rns-e

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    ;) - will do

    I believe that the first of these batteries were installed in European cars back in April, here is one in Norway from April 2020 and his supercharger stats. Not crazy impressive, but better than the current limitation on the original 85.
    New 85kWH battery for my 2013 P85+
     
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  19. Florian500

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    Norway is Europe but not European Union. Slightly different jurisdiction, quite some differences in warranty (only valid in Norway vs. EU warranty is valid in all EU countries).
     
  20. rns-e

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    #480 rns-e, Feb 26, 2021
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    If I buy a Tesla in Norway and import it to Denmark the Tesla warranty is not affected at all, many Swedes and Danes have done so. The Norwegians has 5 years and 100.000 km warranty by law where Denmark and EU? have 4 years and 80.000 km.

    From the start the Country Manager for Tesla has been the same person for Denmark, Norway and Sweden. Started out with a Dane and is now a Norwegian.

    The reason that Tesla ships directly too Norway and not via the Nederlands like for the rest of Europe, is only because of tax and customs. Norwegian cars are certified according to EU standards.

    For a US company Norway is still oversees like the rest of Europe. I can't see any reason why there should not have been a EU car that have received the new battery starting in the same period.
     
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